proud aspies really anger me
Yes, exactly. It's more like confidence, not apologizing for the way your brain's wired, accepting your deficiencies and your talents alike as part of you instead of some unacceptable defect.
I don't think it's any good to feel superior to typical people; that's probably more of a defense mechanism than real self-esteem anyway. Accepting and liking yourself, Asperger's and all, though--that's beneficial.
Thinking of AS as a problem rather than a neutral trait can really end up causing more problems. Trying to hide it all the time can result in having to act in total opposition to the way you feel--living a lie, essentially. Not taking AS into account when you're learning and interacting with the world could result in your trying to do those things the NT way, which isn't nearly as efficient with an AS brain. And of course all those failures, trying to just "try harder" and do it the typical way, just make you feel like you're helpless against "Asperger's" and if only you could get rid of it everything would be perfect... when, if you learned to work with it, you'd probably be doing better.
I may always be disabled, and I understand that. Saying "AS is a disability" (true for most) isn't synonymous with wanting a cure, nor with thinking AS is a bad thing. It isn't. Disability itself isn't a bad thing, or at any rate isn't a thing that one should be ashamed of. And being proud of who you are doesn't require you to have some huge amount of talent that comes along with your autism, either.
People treat Aspies pretty badly sometimes, but the solution isn't to remove the Asperger's; it's to do something about the bullying. Saying that a cure is the solution to people treating you badly is like saying skin bleach is the solution to prejudice against black people.
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I am kinda proud of what I am. Not what I have to endure. I wouldn't take a cure. I have certain things I am better at. I do not go shouting on the street corners that I am autistic. However when I do something to draw ridicule or attention to my self with friends I finally decided to say I am autistic. I have dropped hints here and there like cause they know I have therapists etc. Most of them were shocked.
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I'm no more 'proud' of having Aspergers than I am of being Irish, being female, or any other foolish, stupid thing people seem to be proud of that's nothing to do with anything they've done, but everything to do with how they were born. That sort of mindless pride, across the board, annoys the living hell out of me. However, I *AM* extremely 'out' with my Aspergers, and extremely proud of how well I've done for myself in spite of, and sometimes even BECAUSE of it. I feel that people need to get the idea out of their heads that we're disabled, or mentally challenged....because we're NOT....and have on many occasions used myself as an example of how much a person who started out life as a barely-functioning, nearly stereotypically-autistic wreck is capable of accomplishing as an adult.
I'm sure I'd still annoy someone like you, since I'm also of the mind that Aspergers isn't some sort of 'disease' that can, or SHOULD, be 'cured'. It has its ups and downs, but some of its ups are some of the major reasons WHY I've always been such a high-achiever. The social downfalls are the one major challenge I personally continue to experience, but I'd agree with some of the others here who've said a lot of THOSE problems are far more due to others' intolerance and ignorance than me being 'disabled'. But then again, that intolerance is yet one more reason why successful Aspies need to make themselves visible and publicly own their differences.
I am an Aspie. I am not proud of being treated like crap by the dominating NTs just for getting by. I am not proud of being constantly ridiculed everyday for my lack of facial expressions or for my inability to get a joke or for my inability just to freaking communicate. I am not proud of the fact that I have to be a loner because I dont know how to maintain normal social relationships with people. And...gasp...I think there should be a cure.
I am not thinking of myself when I say this. I am thinking about future generations. I think you proud aspies are only thinking of yourselves when you say that there should be no cure. But seriously, why should future generations have to suffer? Why should future Aspies suffer because we suffered? Everyone deserves a chance to be socially accepted by society. Everyone deserves to have the ability to make friends like any normal person should. People who are struggling with having a different perspective and a means of social communication should not have to be treated like sh*t just because most of you are too proud of yourselves to realize we are suffering more than you want to admit.
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QFT. I was just going to post something like this.
I echo this (except that I'm more English than Irish). I'm not proud of things that I have no control over.
Although, equally, I'm not ashamed of them. Perhaps that is more what people mean when they say they are 'proud' to be gay/black/female/etc. Simply that they are not ashamed of it, in a society that expects shame and a sense of inferiority from minority groups. I am not ashamed to be who I am.
But actual pride - that is for achievements, not for things you are born with. Things like intelligence, gender, colour, face shape, Aspergers, etc., are things one possesses through chance, not through achievement. One may consider oneself luck or unlucky to possess any of those things, but I don't see how pride fits in. Pride is for what you actually do with the lot you are given.
