vickygleitz wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
886 wrote:
I have nothing more to contribute to this discussion, but I'd like to say that all the cat avatars in this thread are amazing.

I'm not sure if it's my face blindness or not, but when I first joined WP, for quite awhile I thought that all of the cat avatars belonged to the same person.
Do you realize when you make a double post? I always do, as I am a fanatic about getting certain getting things right, but only certain things, meaningful to me, which I am just starting to look at in a new light, as I never realized the possible implications of why I was doing it, part of which I think comes from childhood and a desperate attempt to please my parents, yet also I am making many similar processing mistakes about this system, not the same as you with the cats, but the same kind of thing.
littlebee wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
I have nothing to say. I just wanted to add another catatar to the thread.
And of course this does say something:-) A totally fascinating message. I do not know if people have ever thought about it, but the same act or comment done by different people at different times and locations can mean different things depending on the context and who is processing the material. If this message is taken squarely and exactly at face value, like pounding a great big post (or an ornamental cat totem with a final cat picture on the top (or on the bottom:-) into the ground, and it is just that, as stated, it will still mean different things to different people. Or even if it means the same thing, in that 'it is simply what it is,' which is unlikely, there is also the factor of whether a person pays conscious attention to it and how it affects his own functioning, whatever chord it strikes, or whether he just assimilates the material automatically without even thinking about it.
I believe because of moving away from pain towards pleasure, which would be a normal thing to do, people (meaning all of us) put certain things in certain locations for various subjective reasons around how we need to shape the world. Often I am not consciously aware of why I am doing it, or sometimes I do think we know why, but the thinking behind the reasoning that determines it could still be wrong. In all of these instances, it is imo a movement away from pain towards pleasure, even if a person is biting the bullet and just staying with his own personal pain and feeling it for the greater good. In this latter case, the pain would be converted to pleasure, as there is kind of a thin line in dependent on subjective value. But again, a person can think/feel he is doing something for the good of many when actually, from another person's perspective it might be perceived as ignorant, mean, bullying or whatever....all of which could be 'false' or 'true' depending upon who is looking at the material, so there needs to be a gold standard of some sorts and also a way to test if it is the gold is actually real gold..