This is the most important election of my life because I'm autistic

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04 Nov 2016, 3:43 am

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the difference is that Hillary has done questionable things BEFORE, but that trump will do worse things AFTER.


What sort of things?



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04 Nov 2016, 3:54 am

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the difference is that Hillary has done questionable things BEFORE, but that trump will do worse things AFTER.


What sort of things?

per the long-standing GOP platform-
*take health care away [repeal of PPACA] from 20+ million americans and replace it with basically NOTHING.
*cut taxes yet further for his fellow rightie Richie 1% while putting conditions in place [cut federal programs being bounced down to state and local] resulting in vast tax increases [in the form of local fees and taxes] for the 99%.
*killing social security and medicare which would cut health care for an additional [per 2014 figures] 54 million [approx. total of old age and disabled recipients] americans.
*open season on people of color and the poor, making the police even less accountable for their abuses.
*further corporatist policies making big business our de facto governing institution.

people WILL die in the streets, despite what that lying sack of $#!+ gasbag spouts out of his gob.



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05 Nov 2016, 10:48 am

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The Rump will level with us when hell freezes over. the man is a pathological liar. he was trained by the kings of all pathological liars, both his father as well as roy cohn.


Clinton is the worst liar by a mile. How can you support someone like her? She takes millions from Saudi Arabia, who punish women for being raped and don't let them drive. She knowingly gave them weapons to bomb schools and hospitals in Yemen. She knows that the Saudis and other gulf states were/are funding ISIS and says she puts on a different face for the public. She took billions of dollars from people for donations for the people of Haiti and then just kept it for her and her husband.

Tell me one thing that Trump has done that's worse than that?

you are not grokking me at all. I am not voting FOR Hillary, but I am voting AGAINST trump. big difference. but I'm not optimistic that this will translate into something sensible to your philosophy. lesser of two evils. the difference is that Hillary has done questionable things BEFORE, but that trump will do worse things AFTER.


I understand that of course. But as I see now, I could show you a video of Hilary eating babies and you'd still vote for her. Not "questionable", stuff that she should be locked up for. And what's the punishment for treason in the US? Afterwards? She'll just continue with Obama's sickening drone campaign, keep the current conflicts going and start news ones in other Middle East Countries and let lots of the 'refugees' in. Not to mention the fact that she's hinted about possibly shooting down a Russian plane which could lead to WWIII. Not that you care though, cause Trump's racist and sexist.


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05 Nov 2016, 2:34 pm

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I don't like Hillary either but I do also think Trump will be an absolute nightmare for autistics or even the disabled in general heck he hasn't even discussed any plans to help makes things easier at least Hillary seems to have a plan (just hope she follows through if elected). And as a trans woman a Trump presidency would also be hell.

Agreed. People neglect to bring this up, but I often wonder why anyone in ANY minority group would support Trump. The only people I can see Trump caring for are straight, white, Christian, American, neurotypical, cisgender males with conservative values. Yes, this makes me sound like an SJW... so what?


I guess that at least with Clinton, she doesn't discriminate, the bombing she supports just blows away everything in site.


Well like I mentioned I've yet to see proof if Trump is gonna do anything that'll help improve lives of those on the autism spectrum and others with disabilities like is he gonna promote policy that'll get employers to hire us, will he expand services to help adults with autism like with housing, employment, and healthcare? As for Hillary no I don't support her and I'm aware she's flipped flopped on many issues and I don't know for a fact if she'll really follow through but at least she's not ignoring us like Trump seems to be. And what does bombing have to with autism discrimination?
Overall I guess I'm delusional lol


I don't think we should be given jobs purely because we're autistic. I think we need a bit of help to find out where our talents lie. I think pressure could be put on Trump to give an answer, where as Hilary will tell people what she thinks they want to hear and just do nothing or the opposite of what she says. I'm saying that we shouldn't get swayed by Clinton's soppy propaganda and lies and should think more of the world and what this election means for it, then think about more personal issues after it's over.


Normally I would agree if not for the fact that some of my traits can't be masked sadly when I do get a chance for a job interview they tend to pick up that something is off about me and don't hire (using other excuses of course). Not saying I should be just given a job but employers should have complete understanding about autism and more needs to be taken to prevent discrimination not only against us but others with any disability as well. I'd be happy to support to Trump if I knew more on his position on this subject but sadly I don't and I can't find nothing unbiased that states his position either. As for Hillary I truly wish she was disqualified from ever getting the nomination and someone else much better would've been nominated instead and same goes for the republican side I believe Kasich wouldn't be as bad but that's just me but anyhow I have to deal with what we have and propaganda or not at least with Hillary we know where she stands with issues of autism and disability with Trump we don't know and with him siding more and more with the far right I'm afraid he'll promote policies that let employers have open season on discrimination and it's a problem right here in Tennessee right now we don't need it to get worse that's all I'm saying.



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06 Nov 2016, 2:32 pm

EmilyRyan wrote:
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I don't like Hillary either but I do also think Trump will be an absolute nightmare for autistics or even the disabled in general heck he hasn't even discussed any plans to help makes things easier at least Hillary seems to have a plan (just hope she follows through if elected). And as a trans woman a Trump presidency would also be hell.

Agreed. People neglect to bring this up, but I often wonder why anyone in ANY minority group would support Trump. The only people I can see Trump caring for are straight, white, Christian, American, neurotypical, cisgender males with conservative values. Yes, this makes me sound like an SJW... so what?


I guess that at least with Clinton, she doesn't discriminate, the bombing she supports just blows away everything in site.


Well like I mentioned I've yet to see proof if Trump is gonna do anything that'll help improve lives of those on the autism spectrum and others with disabilities like is he gonna promote policy that'll get employers to hire us, will he expand services to help adults with autism like with housing, employment, and healthcare? As for Hillary no I don't support her and I'm aware she's flipped flopped on many issues and I don't know for a fact if she'll really follow through but at least she's not ignoring us like Trump seems to be. And what does bombing have to with autism discrimination?
Overall I guess I'm delusional lol


I don't think we should be given jobs purely because we're autistic. I think we need a bit of help to find out where our talents lie. I think pressure could be put on Trump to give an answer, where as Hilary will tell people what she thinks they want to hear and just do nothing or the opposite of what she says. I'm saying that we shouldn't get swayed by Clinton's soppy propaganda and lies and should think more of the world and what this election means for it, then think about more personal issues after it's over.


Normally I would agree if not for the fact that some of my traits can't be masked sadly when I do get a chance for a job interview they tend to pick up that something is off about me and don't hire (using other excuses of course). Not saying I should be just given a job but employers should have complete understanding about autism and more needs to be taken to prevent discrimination not only against us but others with any disability as well. I'd be happy to support to Trump if I knew more on his position on this subject but sadly I don't and I can't find nothing unbiased that states his position either. As for Hillary I truly wish she was disqualified from ever getting the nomination and someone else much better would've been nominated instead and same goes for the republican side I believe Kasich wouldn't be as bad but that's just me but anyhow I have to deal with what we have and propaganda or not at least with Hillary we know where she stands with issues of autism and disability with Trump we don't know and with him siding more and more with the far right I'm afraid he'll promote policies that let employers have open season on discrimination and it's a problem right here in Tennessee right now we don't need it to get worse that's all I'm saying.



I understand that and can relate to it. I think it depends on the job though. I mean, looking back I am glad I got turned down by certain places. Just don't give up. It'd be nice to believe that Clinton actually cares or would actually do something, but she's just full of it. So with regards to the difference between her and Trump for autistic people, it won't be a lot. So that's why I'd focus on the difference for the war machine. Wars are where all the money goes, and Hilary will attack more countries in the Middle East.


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06 Nov 2016, 3:40 pm

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I understand that of course. But as I see now, I could show you a video of Hilary eating babies and you'd still vote for her. Not "questionable", stuff that she should be locked up for. And what's the punishment for treason in the US? Afterwards? She'll just continue with Obama's sickening drone campaign, keep the current conflicts going and start news ones in other Middle East Countries and let lots of the 'refugees' in. Not to mention the fact that she's hinted about possibly shooting down a Russian plane which could lead to WWIII. Not that you care though, cause Trump's racist and sexist.

you will not convince me that trump is one I should vote for. I will NEVER vote GOP for anything under the sun. NEVER.



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06 Nov 2016, 7:07 pm

The hilarious irony being that the Republicans want Clinton to win.


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06 Nov 2016, 7:21 pm

Dysfunction of the orbitofrontal cortex, among other areas, is implicated in the etiology of psychopathy.

Our next President. Doesn't matter which one. The private virtual network set it up this way, and enough people believed it.

Someting about some amygdala connective white tissue mambo jambo is an issue with these fearless stand at the podium crowd screamers too.

Mine works. I'm afraid... Very very afraid.



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06 Nov 2016, 10:43 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
I understand that and can relate to it. I think it depends on the job though. I mean, looking back I am glad I got turned down by certain places. Just don't give up. It'd be nice to believe that Clinton actually cares or would actually do something, but she's just full of it. So with regards to the difference between her and Trump for autistic people, it won't be a lot. So that's why I'd focus on the difference for the war machine. Wars are where all the money goes, and Hilary will attack more countries in the Middle East.


It really does depend on the job I'll agree to that. Wish there were more services available that can help determine what jobs would be more suitable and teach skills all without the need to go to a school that costs money or hope to get hired somewhere only to realized I'm not suitable for the job and suddenly let go. Another issue I'm currently battling is the fact I'm undiagnosed and the counselor I see agrees that I would benefit from the services available but an official diagnosis is required and the counselor, despite being experienced with autism, is not authorized to diagnose and the small college I attend doesn't have screening services and I can't afford the costs of getting screened and can't find a place that's affordable either. Do I doubt Hillary will really do anything about all this? Yes I do but sadly I have to be delusional and believe she'll actually follow through her plans and hope all the advocacy groups backing her will put pressure on her if she doesn't. Maybe Trump will actually do something I wish I knew if he plans to. I wish I can go to his official website and there be a statement outlining how he plans to help the disabled and autism community but unfortunately there's nothing and since he's never mentioned issues (that I know of) on the campaign trail I'm being left with the impression he most likely isn't gonna do anything at least Hillary has spoken out on the issues and apparently has a plan but I'll continue to doubt her until she actually does anything (if elected). Sorry I keep going on here it's that this thread gives me the much needed opportunity to express my real feelings about the election.



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06 Nov 2016, 11:28 pm

it should be plain for all to see, that the rump's kind generally doesn't do compassion for what it sees as weakness.



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06 Nov 2016, 11:50 pm

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The hilarious irony being that the Republicans want Clinton to win.

That just goes to show that Trump is too far-right, even for them.


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06 Nov 2016, 11:53 pm

I don't believe they think he is too far to the right relative to them, but that he is too loud about what the bulk of other GOPers believe, they are mad at him for letting the cat out of the bag too soon.



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07 Nov 2016, 2:18 pm

EmilyRyan wrote:
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I understand that and can relate to it. I think it depends on the job though. I mean, looking back I am glad I got turned down by certain places. Just don't give up. It'd be nice to believe that Clinton actually cares or would actually do something, but she's just full of it. So with regards to the difference between her and Trump for autistic people, it won't be a lot. So that's why I'd focus on the difference for the war machine. Wars are where all the money goes, and Hilary will attack more countries in the Middle East.


It really does depend on the job I'll agree to that. Wish there were more services available that can help determine what jobs would be more suitable and teach skills all without the need to go to a school that costs money or hope to get hired somewhere only to realized I'm not suitable for the job and suddenly let go. Another issue I'm currently battling is the fact I'm undiagnosed and the counselor I see agrees that I would benefit from the services available but an official diagnosis is required and the counselor, despite being experienced with autism, is not authorized to diagnose and the small college I attend doesn't have screening services and I can't afford the costs of getting screened and can't find a place that's affordable either. Do I doubt Hillary will really do anything about all this? Yes I do but sadly I have to be delusional and believe she'll actually follow through her plans and hope all the advocacy groups backing her will put pressure on her if she doesn't. Maybe Trump will actually do something I wish I knew if he plans to. I wish I can go to his official website and there be a statement outlining how he plans to help the disabled and autism community but unfortunately there's nothing and since he's never mentioned issues (that I know of) on the campaign trail I'm being left with the impression he most likely isn't gonna do anything at least Hillary has spoken out on the issues and apparently has a plan but I'll continue to doubt her until she actually does anything (if elected). Sorry I keep going on here it's that this thread gives me the much needed opportunity to express my real feelings about the election.


I wasn't diagnoses until later on either, but that can be a good thing. All of this can be used to make you stronger and find the right job for you. I'd definitely say getting diagnosed is the number one priority for you. Just be realistic, the woman is a compulsive liar and delivers on nothing. I'm sure you can find out what Trump would do.


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07 Nov 2016, 2:19 pm

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The hilarious irony being that the Republicans want Clinton to win.

That just goes to show that Trump is too far-right, even for them.


Has nothing to do with "far right" or "far left". They try that here with Jeremy Corbyn. The trouble is, both of them are a risk to the Military Industrial Complex, for different reasons.


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07 Nov 2016, 4:53 pm

It seems very important but we will not know for sure until sometime in the future how important it is as an American and as an Autistic.

As an American I would say the combination '68, '72 and '80 elections were most important that it made what was considered conservative world views back in '68 left wing by todays standards.

For autistic people I think Bruno Bettelheim rather then any elected official has had the most impact on American Autistics lives. His view that a normal human had been kidnapped by Autism and need to be "recovered" predominated for decades and is still widely held. While his refrigerior mother theory has been descredited his basic idea of a kidnapped child needing recovery evolved. Autism Speaks was founded on the idea, the idea is seen ABA bieng the gold standard treatment, the anti vaxx, movement, and alternative treatments such as "bleach enemas" etc. Autism was neglated by politicians during the height conservative political era. Autism Speaks was founded in New York, The Judge Rotenberg Centre is in Massachusetts (and is populated by 90+ percent NYC kids), the anti vaxx movement is big in the wealthy progressive enclaves of California so arguably "benign neglet" was not as evil as a libreal era might have been, but who knows?


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