Ever been rejected/mocked/scolded for being too advanced?

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05 Sep 2019, 8:49 am

^^^It's a miracle you could even write that post :P



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05 Sep 2019, 11:44 am

One time when I walked into my regular class when I was in Grade 7, one of my peers said, "The encyclopedia is here." Everybody in the room was talking about me referring to me as the encyclopedia instead of my real name. I ignored them and sat down at my spot.


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05 Sep 2019, 11:48 am

:D Nice to know that I wasn't the only "Walking Encyclopedia" in grade school!


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05 Sep 2019, 3:44 pm

I was also called the "walking dictionary" because I had a good vocabulary.

My true friends don't mock me for my intelligence. They like what I have to contribute to discussions.



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05 Sep 2019, 9:15 pm

All the time. The automotive industry has been working for decades, slowly approaching the integration of suspension functions that I demonstrated in my 1st prototype. I regularly get ignored for suggesting ways to make cheaper windmills, improve ship mileage, and so on, even though I'm quite prepared to prove my case for anyone interested.
I get heavily ostracised for pointing out social inconsistencies. That has cost me almost all my friends.



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06 Sep 2019, 5:06 am

There were at least two occasions in school where a teacher vaguely told me off for attempting the more advanced questions in mathematical papers.



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06 Sep 2019, 9:13 am

Yes, it has happened countless times in my life. I have found that some of my ideas are about 20 to 50 years ahead of the current era. It does make me feel that I am “outta place, outta time”.

I used to be mocked in school as I was following the financial trading markets while most of my peers were being social after lunch at school. They did not understand why I would spend time looking over numbers in a paper when it was not required to do so. I saw that there is a correlation with how the markets do and how the collectible markets respond over time. I tried to explain it to them, but that was just a giant waste of time.



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06 Sep 2019, 9:45 am

JD12345 wrote:
There were at least two occasions in school where a teacher vaguely told me off for attempting the more advanced questions in mathematical papers.
There were occasions when teachers rejected my essays and book reports because they thought that no one my age could possibly be interested in (or even understand) more "mature" subjects like artificial intelligence, binary pulsars, relativistic time dilation, MAGLEV monorail trains, and geosynchronous orbits.


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06 Sep 2019, 10:01 am

There are teachers who are just trying to stay a few pages ahead of the class, and panic when someone reads ahead. They are more worried about being exposed than about learning their jobs or finding more suitable employment. Even a smart teacher can be forced to cover for a Dunning-Kruger infested school. There was a mistake in the wording of a question on my 1st Gr9 science test, and I thought it was a trick question. I gave the right answer, and got nothing for it. My 1st year teacher looked sick when she had to give me the news, but her boss had written the mistake, and expected me to give the wrong answer anyway. From then on, I relied on my own reading and cared nothing about my test scores.



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06 Sep 2019, 10:15 am

Dear_one wrote:
There are teachers who are just trying to stay a few pages ahead of the class. They are more worried about being exposed than about learning their jobs. Even a smart teacher can be forced to cover for a Dunning-Kruger infested school. There was a mistake in the wording of a question on my 1st Gr9 science test, and I thought it was a trick question. I gave the right answer, and got nothing for it. From then on, I relied on my own reading and cared nothing about my test scores.
I learned how to give the answers they wanted (the "right" answers), which were not necessarily the correct ones. Multiple-choice tests were the easiest, as there were certain things to watch for. Assuming that the right answer is either a, b, c, or d:

• There is always one right answer.
• There are always two more answers that could be right, but that are actually wrong in similar ways.
• There is always one obviously wrong answer -- obvious if you've studied the assigned reading.
• If "All of the above" or "None of the above" appears only once in all the questions, then it is most likely the right answer.
• Plugging each answer back into the stated equation on a maths exam and working it in reverse always yields the right answer.

I always scored highly on tests, except essays; I wasn't one to simply repeat back what the teachers believed to be true, but wrote out a dissenting opinion in the accepted five-point format.


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06 Sep 2019, 10:37 am

I was shocked when I first heard about ways to improve test scores by context. I didn't want to add to the problems in a corrupted data set. Recently, I have seen elaborate instructions on how to pass a multiple-choice math test without using any math. They are much harder for me to remember, but they work for some people.
If I'd studied Architecture in my 20s, I'd have been taught to specify inefficient ventilation fans, in case my numbers were wrong, and to use them to cool a whole building evenly, while using the electric heat on the shady side. I would't waste my time on that, let alone money, and that was when the government co-signed student loans.

One time I was doing some R&D with a guy, and forgot that his day job was being a professor. I said something snide about higher education, and he warned me to be careful - I was in a double PhD household. "Aww, thass' awright" I replied "I ain't prejudice." This he repeated to his wife.

The automotive history is full of hot rodders beating engineers, and in human powered racing, the Universities had to start their own league to avoid being totally embarrassed at events. That said, one U team did eventually excel.



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06 Sep 2019, 10:46 am

Probably only once in primary school ( I was about 6 or 7 ) - probably my fault

I was talking to the teacher about the planets and the closest planet to the sun , even though I knew the answer for some reason I asked her what the closest planet to the sun was - she answered incorrectly ( which threw me ) and I said something like 'I thought Mercury was the closest planet to the sun' , the teacher got all arsey with me and told me to go and sit down and stop wasting her time.


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06 Sep 2019, 11:25 am

Dear_one wrote:
... The automotive history is full of hot-rodders beating engineers, and in human powered racing, the Universities had to start their own league to avoid being totally embarrassed at events. That said, one U team did eventually excel.
There was a comedian (can't remember his name) who told about the time that Sales, Marketing, and Engineering all went on a corporate team-building exercise. They were given the raw materials and told to build a raft.

Sales: Sold the raw materials for cash and threw a party.

Marketing: Never actually built the raft. They just came up with different possible packaging solutions: Enterprise Raft, Business Raft, Home & Office Raft, et cetera ... and 50 slides of what each raft should look like. They booked 200 orders.

Engineering: Put every feature, bell, and whistle on the raft (i.e., recliner, big-screen TV, toaster-oven, et cetera). It was never finished, and it sunk, but it looked good going down.


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06 Sep 2019, 11:38 am

There is a contest that involves building the tallest tower, using only spaghetti and marshmallows. First graders make several attempts in the given time, and usually beat the college grads, who think it over more. The engineers do win, though.
I'd like to see it done comparing different sizes of teams. I suspect that the smaller teams will have both the best and the worst results, but the average would be interesting, too. Feynman was appalled at the thought of a 100 member panel - they would have to spend too much time dealing with stupid internal matters.



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06 Sep 2019, 1:50 pm

Dear_one wrote:
... Feynman was appalled at the thought of a 100 member panel - they would have to spend too much time dealing with stupid internal matters.
"After all has been said and done, more has been said than done." -- Aesop (620 B.C. - 524 B.C.)

This bit of wisdom is over 2500 years old!


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06 Sep 2019, 2:05 pm

It depend on what you consider advanced. Apparently I'm "advanced" for believing the Earth is round, it revolves around the sun, vaccines save lives, the dinosaurs existed millions of years before humans ever did and that there is nothing wrong with being autistic. :roll: