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pandd
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01 Feb 2010, 4:04 am

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Pandd, I seriously didn't mean to offend you.

You have not offended me.
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The question posed was whether or not NA (or non-autistic/non-aspie), would be better for referring to people who aren't on the spectrum. I'm not on the spectrum but my husband and son are. I'm on this site to learn information to help my understanding of Aspergers because I have read nearly everything written on the subject yet I find the personal accounts of Aspies (and those who love them) more helpful in many ways than all the formal research literature I've read. I am doing all this reading because I love my family so much and want for all of us to have as peaceful and happy a life together as possible.

In the context of this forum, when posting it is helpful to identify whether or not you are autistic so others will know where you're coming from. The current convention is to identify yourself (if you aren't autistic) as either NT, or neurotypical.

There is no current convention requiring anyone to use either of these.
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Since I am not NT and not Aspie either, when this thread was started I felt strongly that NA or non-autistic/non-aspie would be preferrable (to me).

I have no problem with you doing your thing, but I am not going to use NA because (as I stated) I do not like it as a label that refers to people, for various and sundry reasons. As to non-Autistic, I use it often, and mostly only employ NT when I am having trouble typing.



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01 Feb 2010, 10:16 pm

Step wrote:
Secondly, NT or not NT is not specific enough. There are many ways that a person can be atypical neurologically without having autism. That's just a scientific fact.


Um... that is almost exactly what I said?
Except NT and not NT are specific enough, in my opinion.
Any more narrow than that and it gets down to labels, and labels aren't always accurate enough.

...wikipedia quote...

Neurological disorders are disorders that can affect the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord), the peripheral nervous system, or the autonomic nervous system.

Conditions can include but are not limited to:

* Altered mental status, encephalopathy, stupor and coma
* Behavioral/cognitive syndromes
* Brain injury, spinal cord and peripheral nerves
* Cerebral palsy
* Cerebrovascular disease, such as transient ischemic attack and stroke.
* Demyelinating diseases of the central nervous system, such as multiple sclerosis, and of the peripheral nervous system, such as Guillain-Barré syndrome and chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP)
* Epilepsy
* Functional symptoms, having no apparent physiological cause
* Headache disorders such as migraine, cluster headache and tension headache
* Infections of the brain (encephalitis), brain meninges (meningitis), spinal cord (myelitis)
* Infections of the peripheral nervous system
* Movement disorders such as Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, hemiballismus, tic disorder, and Gilles de la Tourette syndrome
* Neoplasms – tumors of the brain and its meninges (brain tumors), spinal cord tumors, tumors of the peripheral nerves (neuroma)
* Neurodegenerative disorders, including Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, and Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease).
* Paraneoplastic neurological syndromes
* disorders of peripheral nerves, muscle (myopathy) and neuromuscular junctions
* Sleep disorders
* Speech and language disorders
* Spinal cord disorders – tumors, infections, trauma, malformations (e.g., myelocele, meningomyelocele, tethered cord)
* traumatic brain injur

Autism mainly falls under "Behavioral/cognitive syndromes"



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02 Feb 2010, 1:44 pm

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I'll call em what I bloody well feel like! :P


Me too! I call them ignorant.


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03 Feb 2010, 1:15 am

blackjack89 wrote:
Step wrote:
Secondly, NT or not NT is not specific enough. There are many ways that a person can be atypical neurologically without having autism. That's just a scientific fact.


Um... that is almost exactly what I said?
Except NT and not NT are specific enough, in my opinion.
Any more narrow than that and it gets down to labels, and labels aren't always accurate enough.


Sorry about that blackjack89...you essentially did say the same thing!
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