EVIL APSIES!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

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Posthumous diagnoses of historical figures are BS. Hitler was evil because he was a power-hungry maniac, not because he has Asperger's.

I behave evily in the sense that my fustration about not being able to function well in day to day life leads me to take out my fustration and anger on my brother and parents.

Sure ... and now the challenge is to learn to take action *against* that mere emotion (frustration) and do things that are *good* for the others in your life. That is easier said than done, of course, but I do know from experience as a very frustrated and angry man that it *can* be done.

If to be "evil" includes the ability to actually carry out acts of evil on others, then I would have thought that someone with AS would be at a disadvantage to an NT, given the same (unmeasurable, really) latent degree of evilness for each person.

It's one thing to think nasty thoughts or have fantasies of destroying people or whatever, but it's not demonstrably evil until enacted.
Carrying out a really evil act requires some degree of planning and forethought, some level of active development and I don't know about y'all, but I can barely plan the skin off a rice pudding.

So for someone to actually plan and put something really evil into some sort of long-term undiluted nastiness (Hitler, Stalin, Jeffrey Dalmer etc), it seems to me that we're already way beyond AS.

Throwing a tantrum, getting snippy, shouting at someone in frustration, even hitting a sibling for the same reasons: not "evil", as far as I can see. There's too much heat of the moment stuff and/or inappropriate emotional outbursts with no long-term planning and intention.

Fair enough, but then at what point does one become responsible for seeing any harm actually done and making efforts to change his or her harmful behaviour?

Ah, but that's the point. Someone really evil wouldn't do this - they'd take malicious delight in developing this activity.

So then, you are saying no such person should ever be held accountable for any actual harm done, and simply because there was no ill intent?

If so, would that even apply to homicide during a rage?

My point is this: Now that I know I can cause harm, my difficulty with rage and whatever might be behind it becomes irrelevant.

Sadistic personality disorder?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_p ... y_disorder
(Note that it says see also "Evil Genes" )

Not at all. I wasn't even going near an accountability or responsibility issue.
Just trying to get an angle on deliberately, manifestly plain ol' evil, and someone making a career or life-plan out of it would likely already have a twisted view of how 'responsible' they were actually being (eg. Hitler thought the whole Holocaust thing was necessary). Hence, "evil".

Yes. You're aware of the harm that could be caused and actions are taken to prevent that from happening.
Someone evil wouldn't - they'd more likely work to increase the harm, or worse still - the harms caused would be distorted into being 'beneficial' (Hitler/Holocaust).

So then, Jamesy, there you go -- that is how people can surely know you are not evil.

Yes, it's more that sort of thing I was thinking of as "evil", as opposed to it simply being a case of having AS somehow implying a greater chance of being evil than being an NT does.
Yeah. Shame about that...

I love too many exclamation marks!! !! !! ! ! !! IT makes posts you make doubly convincing!! !! !! !! !!

Well that's the first time I've ever heard of such a thing, and I generally don't think that Hitler had AS..

Here is where i got the insiperation for this thread from. Watch these 2 videos carefully, they are quite long but if you do have to watch them you will know what i am talking about..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlM3kwrsAYs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq90RVJP ... re=channel

I should have poted these 2 videos at the beggining of the thread.

Or not.

Bad information isn't made better because it's on you tube.

Whenever I get into fights I do not care how much pain I inflict on the guy I am fighting. I would kill the person if I could get away with it. If there was no chance of going to jail I would kill or seriously cripple my attacker. I also cause trouble for people who torment me. I have gotten people fired who had children to support without even a little bit of remorse to them being without work. I have been pushed around, insulted, beaten, and humilated too many times to care about anyone except myself. No one has ever stepped up to stop someone from tormenting me so why should I care about anyone else? I would consider myself nuetral evil in Dungeon & Dragons terms I guess.