Do you fit diagnostic criteria for Autistic Disorder?
Seph
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Guess I'll throw mine out there...
(I) A total of six (or more) items from (A), (B), and (C), with at least two from (A), and one each from (B) and (C)
(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
not so much no
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
yes
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
yes
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
no. When invited I'll play. I'm just akward at it to the point people feel the need to point it out.
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
Yes. Misdiagnosed as deafness.
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
yes
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
I don't know. I use stock phrases a lot. I don't know if this is referring to that.
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
yes to a certain extent. I don't know if it would be considered marked impairment.
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
yes
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
not what you typically find in autism but I have a few... so maybe.
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
none that are obvious.
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
not really.
(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:
(A) social interaction
maybe
(B) language as used in social communication
yes
(C) symbolic or imaginative play
maybe
(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder
not accounted for.
So all in all I'd say I might have had it but it's not definitive.
Is this what will be used to diagnose AS and Autism from 2012?
I dont fit B very well. But I have enough points from the others. The problem with B is that I could initiate a conversation, and sustain it, but the conversation I would be having would not be making a lot of sense to me (or indeed the other person) because I would be literal and odd and the other person would be normal and looking at all the non verbals and verbal signals and all the other things.
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Seph
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I dont fit B very well. But I have enough points from the others. The problem with B is that I could initiate a conversation, and sustain it, but the conversation I would be having would not be making a lot of sense to me (or indeed the other person) because I would be literal and odd and the other person would be normal and looking at all the non verbals and verbal signals and all the other things.
No. This is DSM IV criteria. The changes for DSM V are here:
DSM 5
I don't know what changes, if any, are planned for the ICD-10.
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
I cant really make eye contact - this was profoundly poor back in the day and is a little better now.
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
No friends cant maintain friends, paranoia surrounding intent etc etc
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
Not at all - im constantly trying to share things with others
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
I dont really fit this criterion though I have been referred to as controlling in group activities (when I was younger) I preferred to take over and people become pawns.
From A:
marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
From B
in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
From C
encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
Part two
(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
i do fit the criteria but i have learned and challenged myself to adapt quite a bit and my therapist agrees
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(I) A total of six (or more) items from (A), (B), and (C), with at least two from (A), and one each from (B) and (C)
(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:
(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play
(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder
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