hale_bopp wrote:
Ok, I just keep hearing from worried parents about this rubbish. I read somewhere about the whole vaccines cause autism is a PILE OF POO, and was wondering if anyone can link me to these facts, or facts about the guy who said it?
I want to make a video and spread it across the internet.
Well I did have a bad reaction to a vaccination, however I don't think it caused AS as my parents and I have concluded I was pretty much always this way and there seems to be a genetic component in my family.
However, the reaction meant I couldn't be completely immunized against pertussis because of the increased chance of a life threatening reaction to the vaccination. I had to rely on herd immunity not to contract it, which worked fine until people decided to stop vaccinating their kids.
A few years ago, there was a "cold" going around and I contracted it. After about two weeks the "cold" passed and I broke out into severe coughing fits. I would feel absolutely fine but every few days I'd have these severe fits where I would cough 50 times in a row, a good 30 times after I had no more air in my lungs and nearly passed out from them on a few occasions. These fits occurred with enough infrequency to dampen concern that they were related. One of these fits occurred in a crowded shopping mall, a good few days after I had had the last one and it was only then that I started to suspect I had pertussis.
given that they have to deactivate these viruses it is possible for a batch to not be totally pure. then there's also the issue that they can't over do it as the vaccine could be rendered ineffective.
also, i read a story a long while back about vaccines pushing a less harmful version of a virus or disease out of existence which somehow caused another more harmful version to become more prevalent. does anyone else recall such a news story? i can't remember what the name of the virus/disease was but i know it was on the cdc site.
I went to the doctors and he said it could be pertussis but it was too late to give me antibiotics and he didn't seem very concerned because it was rare and most people, it was assumed, were immune from the vaccinations.
About two years later, word got around that there was an ongoing pertussis outbreak in the state and 6 babies had died. My sister was pregnant and almost due and because of the outbreak, no one would be allowed near the baby for 6 months unless they had immunity. In the off chance I did from my suspected infection, I had an immunity test. It was such a rarely performed test that it wasn't even listed on the order form and there was no ID for it. The doctor wrote it in and hoped the lab technicians knew what we were talking about.
Fortunately they did, and I came back positive for pertussis antibodies, confirming I had immunity which could have only come from infection. This proved that spate of coughing fits I had two years before was pertussis.
I was likely unfortunately an unwitting link in an outbreak that needlessly killed 6 babies. Pertussis is a sinister illness. It's highly infectious, mimics a mild cold, and is fatal to infants.
This begs the question to parents, even if vaccinations did cause autism, would you rather have a child with some degree of autism or would you rather have to experience the death of a child?
We are now having a measles outbreak. In fact we've had two measles outbreaks in the past 20 years since this anti-vaccination mentality has been going around.
there's also the issue of risk. perhaps it's alright to risk autism for something like this. but for something like chicken pox? especially when the risk of fatal shingles is raised later in life by getting a chicken pox vaccine instead of just contracting it naturally?
also, how are you certain that the initial vaccine didn't give you pertussis? there is an issue of quality in these vaccines and not all batches are of the same high level of quality.
17 Jun 2011, 7:29 pm
