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18 Nov 2011, 1:40 pm

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I usually get angry if there is some underlying stress. I think part of this pavement anger is anxiety. I get such conflciting feelings about people I just end up hating them.

Yes! Whenever I walk my dog, when I step outside, I immediately look to the left and right to see if there are people out, and it's such a relief when there aren't. When there are, and they're walking in a direction towards me, I become filled with resentment for them, because I feel so awkward passing people on the street and I hate having to deal with it.



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06 Dec 2011, 1:29 pm

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I always wonder if I am the only one who notices people playing chicken. It seems so very common, and happens even when there is ample room for everyone. What is the purpose of creating this psychodrama? How do most people react to such behavior? And yes, I feel like whenever I express my displeasure with someone's behavior toward me (whether on the sidewalk or not), they want to beat me down. Maybe I am not exhibiting a "scary face" or some BS?


Just back from walking home from work and again an awful lot of people engaged me in games of chicken. I feel slightly traumatised at the fact that people engage me in this psychodrama. I have of late reacted to the amount of unwanted games of chicken people make me play by doing it now and again to other people. But not just anyone, I do it to the people I feel are more deserving of the game of chicken than I am. These are people who are behaving irresponsibly in the way they walk, by blatantly not watching where they're going, usually by having all their attention on the mobile phone or standing idly in a way that blocks others while not watching who's oncoming. I barge fearlessly towards these people, would not divert from a collision course until the very last possible moment, and this makes the other person notice me and they get out the way.

Therefore, I wonder if people play chicken with us because of eye contact and they think we're not watching where we're going - and see us as deserving of the game of chicken for this reason?



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06 Dec 2011, 4:12 pm

I can't help but notice the high number of people responding from UK or Europe. Where I am the sidewalks aren't so crowded but I do understand pavement rage. For me it's especially triggered by drivers who don't stop for pedestrians in crosswalks.


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06 Dec 2011, 8:17 pm

There's an old facebook group that I remember seeing for this, called "I secretly want to punch slow walking people in the back of the head." link

22,031 people are in this group.

Edit: Oh, and there's a whole Wall Street Journal article on the topic of sidewalk rage (it mentions the group, and the group mentions the article): link


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07 Dec 2011, 7:38 am

Does feeling aggressive on a bus count as pavement rage??

Although my obsession is a certain bus company and my bus happens to be in this certain company, (not First!!), I still seem to get extremely angry with other people when I'm on the bus. If I got to stand up, I glare at all the people who are sitting down, and ( :roll: ) of course they have to look at me and smirk and give me ''f*****g hell, what's wrong with you, woman?!'' vibe ( :roll: ), so I suppose I can't express that emotion any more and I will go back to being blank and boring and people will still look.....
Anyway, I also used to get angry when someone came and sat next to me. I used to fold my arms angrily and turn towards the window in a stiff way, scowling so much that my face used to ache. But one morning at the bus stop I told myself not to be like that, and from then on I have been able to be more calmer and less huffy.
I also used to get really mad when somebody put a toddler in the seat behind me. I used to either get up and move, or if I couldn't I used to do the same actions mentioned above. I don't have that problem now because they run a bus with less seats and so they get filled up quick and people with toddlers normally sit right at the front in the big spaces provided for buggys, which is a relief.

Honestly, getting this angry but keeping it in does not do any good to my blood pressure, and I've lost a lot of weight trying to keep it in! That is how much ''pavement rage'' has affected me!


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07 Dec 2011, 8:06 am

If bus rage isn't pavement range, it's certain very closely related.

I've had a lot of bus rage in my life. Or perhaps bus frustration. You could almost classify Tri-Met (Portland, OR's transit system) as a special interest of mine, as I was able to use it to get around to most of Portland, memorized routes and schedules, and was able to cope with going most places on my own. But when I had to go somewhere new and unfamiliar, or ride a route I wasn't used to, or getting on a crowded bus, or had people sit next to me and crowd me, or the bus was late or the bus was early and I was not, I'd get it. I had actual meltdowns over missing buses, even every-fifteen-minute buses. Or getting lost when I was going somewhere for the first time.



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07 Dec 2011, 8:59 am

yes I do.



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07 Dec 2011, 9:24 am

I get computer rage when a programme doesn't do what I want it to do...

As for pavement rage, I can get irritated if there are too many people around walking towards me, or too slowly in front of me etc but I tend to just try and get out of there as quickly as possible!



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07 Dec 2011, 11:53 am

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I get computer rage when a programme doesn't do what I want it to do...

As for pavement rage, I can get irritated if there are too many people around walking towards me, or too slowly in front of me etc but I tend to just try and get out of there as quickly as possible!


I got ''computer rage'' earlier today. I just built a really good house for my sims, including a swimming pool in a shape that took ages to do - and then lo and behold the computer crashed, leaving me the only option of switching it off at the wall, and so I had lost my whole game what I took ages doing. It drove me maaaad!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! ! :x


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07 Dec 2011, 1:00 pm

I get pavement rage too but what specifically annoys me is escalator behaviour. Women (sorry sisters) tend to be the worst.

First they slow down, wait and then perform a silly hop onto the escalator. Then, once at the top, they step off the escalator AND THEN THEY STOP!! Causing complete chaos to anyone behind them trying to get off the escalator. Aaaaarrrrgghh!


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07 Dec 2011, 1:06 pm

I can't even being to tell you how much of a problem this is for me. If I had a job where commuting at rush hour was not necessary, my quality of life would improve considerably.


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07 Dec 2011, 1:42 pm

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I get computer rage when a programme doesn't do what I want it to do...


lol. This reminds me when I would get computer rage when I was trying to pull up a bus schedule on my EEE mini-laptop while I was walking towards a bus stop on the pavement. I would miss the bus while almost accidentally hitting lightpoles and the bus schedule never opened in time.

So, computer, bus and pavement rage at the same time. :lol:



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07 Dec 2011, 2:20 pm

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I had to look up what this was before I could answer, but now that I know: by golly yes I get this. I am a very fast walker and I find it painful to walk at slow paces, particularly with family members, particularly particularly when they're window shopping. Creating a "fast walker lane" on very busy streets would be a grand idea, I already read that in busy big cities like London you have to stand on the right side of escalators if you're not in a rush so that people can get by on the left, that's a great idea I wish we had in Dublin.

On a related note: when you're on an escalator do you walk or stand still and let the stairs do the work?

For our er American friends I'm talking about moving stairs, not lifts.

Middle aged mothers with prams are the worst offenders by the way.


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Oh yeah. I get that kind of rage too. People on sidewalks, in malls, etc. annoy me, I get angry because they often just wander aimlessly getting in my way. I know where I'm going, I want to get in and out and all the zombies are irritating. People also have the dumb tendency to crowd in narrow areas, by the doors, etc. Annoys the crap out of me too. And yeah, I walk on escalators because I want to get what I want quickly and get out even quicker. I usually go to malls on Sunday mornings when it's quiet.



YEP! I'm a very fast walker, too! And yes, IT IS EXCRUCIATING to walk amongst a flock of wanderers walking aimlessly about the sidewalk, mall aisles, and airport concourses. For this reason, I refuse to go to the mall closest to where I live because it's maddening in there...the aimless zombies...the high decibel din :doh: :wall: If I have to go there, I have to plot out my path and find ways and means of cutting through the hordes without having someone bump into me (which I absolutely HATE)!


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07 Dec 2011, 2:51 pm

yesterday i got on the bus to get back home from work and it was sooooo crowded. now, i don't mind standing, but there were people in front and behind and to the right and the left and they almost touched me! i can't even explain how i felt. i was anxious and so angry i wanted to push them out of the way and scream at the sky. but i won't push anyone because it's wrong.
when stuck in an extremely crowded bus or sidewalk, i moan and slam a fist into an open palm and curse at no one in particular and want to cry. i feel like a box of dynamite about to go off. might get confused and disoreinted as well. i think about it with anger weeks and months afterward.



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07 Dec 2011, 5:01 pm

Steven Malkmus?


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07 Dec 2011, 6:29 pm

Shockingly, I live in NYC and I don't really have "Pavement Rage" then again I don't go into Manhattan on a daily basis.

I know of some NTs who do get annoyed by tourists/window shoppers here who walk slow, most native NYC residents avoid Times Square like a plague, myself included. As the sidewalk traffic there is the WOAT. I mean its literary jammed with people.

However, I most certainty have bus rage, I ride a bus to work on a daily basis and man it sucks, lots of drama with the bus handing crowds poorly (Compared to older models) the middle aged NT woman are the worst, they don't know how to mind their business.