Do NT's despise those who are different?

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artrat
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20 Nov 2011, 5:00 am

readingbetweenlines wrote:
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NT's fear people who are different. I really think they are afraid of mentally challenged people. They are uncomfortable and feel threatened.

Feeling uncomfortable is not the same as despising people.
Feeling threatened is not the same as despising people.

Bigotry is not exclusive to NTs. This thread may yet prove it.


I think you misunderstood me or I expressed myself wrong.
I know the meaning of the words despise,threaten and uncomfortable. I am not stupid.
I have family members that are afraid of mentally challenged people so I used that as an example. I know people would not know that and I should have explained it in the first place.
I said uncomfortable and threatened because they also feel that way.
I feel very offended. :evil:
Are you the kind of person that corrects people's spelling and grammer on the internet?

No, I was trying (and clearly failing) to say that discomfort and feeling threatened ale emotions that are a long way from despising people. Yes they are emotions that some NTs have, about people who are different, as well as about people who are not different.

I am sorry if I offended you. That was not my intention.

At the time of posting I was getting rather frustrated with blanket statements being made about groups which at the end of the day are more alike than they are different.

When you said NTs fear people etc they are this and they feel that it came across as the kind of generalisation that is unhelpful. One is very carefully warned not to generalise about AS but it occasionally feels like NTs are fair game. But I made the cardinal mistake of posting in anger and that I shouldn't have done.

The part of my post about bigotry was no longer in response to your post but I can't seem to work out how to get multiple quotes from different posters into the same response. Any advice on this is welcome. I could and should have made this clear in the post.

I am so sorry.
I should not have said that to you. It was rude and I didn't relize untill I read it again.
I get really paranoid sometimes.
I am very sorry!



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20 Nov 2011, 5:15 am

artrat, no need to apologise. I've sent you a pm.


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20 Nov 2011, 5:30 am

readingbetweenlines wrote:
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They are the herd, we are the individuals.


"Them against us" is herd mentality though, isn't it?

Yes, it is.

There are enough barriers between people already, I didn't realise WP was the place to create some superfluous new ones.

I've already been slammed on another thread for failing to accept my (NT) herd membership.(sorry, off topic)

Hey-ho. Or should that be baaaaa...


Yes it is herd mentality. We are all guilty of it to some degree. But I did not say "them against us". I wasn't identifying myself with all the other individuals when I said "we are the individuals". But I would align myself with AS people rather than NT people.

I would say I am much more an individual than the NT's I have met in my life.



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20 Nov 2011, 5:31 am

Stefan10 wrote:
Remember this, not all NTs are shallow people based around grouping and conformation. Many if not most NTs have unique personalities, faults, and uncertainties of their own. From what I've observed, very few people fit well in to a stereotype, and the only distinction is how much you deviate from the stereotypical behavior. As for what qualifies an NT in relation to an Aspie; I think the core of it is the logical and systematic approach to things that affect perception and ability to perceive different aspects of the world: in one instance there is an attention toward other people while in the other it is a refinement of detail. Everybody is somewhere between these two extremes, a balanced and I suppose stereotypical person is in the middle of both. It is when the natural abilities affect the functionality of a person that the labels are necessary. Otherwise it is just a categorization for the sake of understanding, which I have to say is great in itself. ;)


Well said :-)

I get a 7 on that Cambridge autism quotient test, ie very 'NT' I guess, whatever not at all AS. But many of the people I love and my closest friends get high scores. I love the way they think but we are chalk and cheese, according to that particular ASD 'test'. But we have common values, humour, interests, and robust relationships that mean we can communicate and learn from each others views and ways of thinking.



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20 Nov 2011, 9:37 am

Herd mentality is fairly universal with humans. Aspies are, sadly, not immune to this. Maybe more resistant, but certainly not immune. (And the fact they're resistant might be because Aspies often don't have their own herd because they have a problem making friends).

But obviously, it all depends on the person.

Same goes for the NTs.

(NTs are individuals, too. Who knew.)