Can you be Autistic and Bi-Polar at the same time?

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20 May 2012, 10:37 pm

We are discussing some very important and serious issues. What's the problem? Is that simply not allowed here?

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It seems to be getting a bit snippy and heated in here and PMs have been sent as a result.
Please calm down guys and let's have some more calm and considered responses.

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20 May 2012, 10:50 pm

There you go again. Elite? Liberal types? Really? Really?!?
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Well, it's the truth, isn't it? The psychology, psychiatric, and education professions are full of elite liberal types who come up with all these diagnoses, so why shouldn't regular people and those from Mid America question their validity? Imagine someone from Kansas going into the big cities and elite universities, and telling those people everything they believed was wrong, and they should change their whole way of life? By the way, I actually live in one of the coastal states in the Northeastern part of America,although am more on the moderate to conservative side.

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20 May 2012, 11:30 pm

cavendish wrote:

We are discussing some very important and serious issues. What's the problem? Is that simply not allowed here?

The problem is that your posts have consistently been derisive and often ridicule the points made by others.
This must stop immediately otherwise there will be repercussions.

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21 May 2012, 5:26 am

I really don't understand. Yes, I have disagreed with some of the opinions expressed, but have tried to use intelligence and reason to advance my arguments. I whole heatedly believe everything that I have written. My only goal is to help people here prepare for what goes on in the real world. Please cite specifics on any derisiveness, ridicule, etc.

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cavendish wrote:

We are discussing some very important and serious issues. What's the problem? Is that simply not allowed here?

The problem is that your posts have consistently been derisive and often ridicule the points made by others.
This must stop immediately otherwise there will be repercussions.

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21 May 2012, 6:24 pm

cavendish wrote:

Please cite specifics on any derisiveness, ridicule, etc.

Please be patient, it might take a while for cornflake to quote 46 posts.

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21 May 2012, 6:36 pm

What are the chances of turning this thread back into the discussion it was created for - whether autism and bipolar can be diagnosed in the same person.

Usually in Canada they call people with a mental health diagnosis and a developmental disability diagnosis a "Dual Diagnosis" so if you want to read more about it, you can google that - only problem is, I think in the US "dual diagnosis" refers to a mental health diagnosis and substance abuse problems.

http://www.ontario.cmha.ca/about_mental ... p?cID=7598

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21 May 2012, 6:54 pm

Well, the best way to dx Bi-polar would be to find out if parents or siblings in a family have it. Since its genetic, usually someone on your family tree will have been noted for this.
And there is no reason why you cannot have more than one disorder, its what is known as co-morbidity..
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21 May 2012, 9:38 pm

cavendish wrote:

. . . The psychology, psychiatric, and education professions are full of elite liberal types who come up with all these diagnoses . . .

This is a valid criticism. You're saying they're coming at it with a different world view from how you'd come at it.

Actually, I'd kind of agree with the criticism of elitism, but not the criticism of being liberal.

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21 May 2012, 9:50 pm

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I know Autism is a 'spectrum disorder'. So you might be a 'little' or a 'lot'.

But can you have Bi-Polar disorder as well at the same time?
Do any of you with a diagnosis have both?
I wouldn't imagine Bi-Polar is a spectrum disorder, but I might be wrong.
I could research it, but what the hell, I just thought I would ask here.
Reason being, I have been diagnosed with having 'Hypomania' by a past doctor and
prescribed Olanzipine - quickly binned thankyou....
But never diagnosed with Bi-Polar. I seem to have the 'Up' phase of it, but never the 'Down'. Though I do get very depressed sometimes.
Anyway.
What about you?
Anyone with a dual-diagnosis?
Is it possible? Rare? Common?

Yes, of course you could have both, they are not mutually exclusive. Olanzipine for hypomania, that's not really appropriate. If you had a full mania--then maybe. I could be more descriptive but what the hell, I thought I would be brief.
Comorbid mood disorders are not unusual.

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21 May 2012, 10:00 pm

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My best guess: 30% of psychiatrists, psychologists, etc, are lousy, 45% are in the sloppy middle who are sometimes helpful and sometimes not, 25% are good who are usually helpful.

sounds about right for the mental health profession.

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21 May 2012, 10:05 pm

I actually hope I'm mistaken, but yeah, I think it is about this way.

And I think the skill is how to move laterally away from a crappy professional. And also how to work with a doctor in that sloppy middle, a doctor you can halfway talk with.

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21 May 2012, 10:10 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:

but most importantly is to find a professional you can work with, they are not all bad.

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21 May 2012, 10:10 pm

The following is a column by a psychiatrist on CNN Health in 2010.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/expert.q ... index.html

He's basically presenting a case that there's a lot of overlap between schizophrenia and bipolar. And he also says that some modern medicines are good at treating both.

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21 May 2012, 10:38 pm

It may not be obvious, but their socially and culturally liberal beliefs inevitably have a major influence on the way they view and treat their clients and patients.

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cavendish wrote:

. . . The psychology, psychiatric, and education professions are full of elite liberal types who come up with all these diagnoses . . .

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