Prejucises by autistic people about autism

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That is not speaking for others, that is expressing an opinion about others based on his observations.

I just remembered a series of private messages between myself and a self-diagnosed wp user who held the view that people with AS were a superior master race, while people with autism were the results of inbreeding gone wrong. When I disagreed with these views, he naturally accused me of being neurotypical.

....which is why I said "some people" as opposed to "we Aspies."

i do not wish to quarrel with you, however an absence of a reply by me to your post may seem dismissive, so i will reply in the most diplomatic way that i can.

you have encapsulated my entire sentence (that contains 2 double quote punctuation marks harboring the word "explanation") in double quotes. this makes it seem like you are replicating my sentence with a double quote on each side of the sentence which itself contains double quotes. that is grammatically incorrect because a quote within a double quote should be a single quote, and i did not make that error.

that does not make sense.
ignoring that your sentence starts with "as in" without a predicate, i agree. i just think your idea concerning what i said is erroneous, and therefore i am not keen to waste my minds energy by inviting an explanation from you. i used the word "lazily" in a respectful gesture to you. i inferred that you may be correct in what you say, but i am too lazy to drill in to your logic. it is like panning for gold in the kitchen sink.
i am not sure that there is no gold in tap water, but i can not be bothered to find out.


if i may paraphrase what you said, then i believe you mean "it is easier for me to dismiss challenges to my way of thinking than it is to surrender to the challenge, and update my ideas".
i dismiss challenges that i think are subordinate to the satisfaction i have with the correctness of what i think. i update what i think often. in another thread, i spoke about lemmings, and another poster indicated i was incorrect (about them running off cliffs), and when i researched further, i updated my stock of knowledge accordingly. (i must find that thread and concede i was incorrect).
however in your case, i see no sense in flogging a dead horse. a jockey who flails his whip on a dead steed is illogically ambitious. your assertions are vague and wooly in my mind, and so i look where i can focus with sharpness instead.

are you saying i think that everyone that does agree with me is "dotty"? no. i do not. i know that i am not omnipotent in my cognizance, but i also can not be derailed by a twig on the tracks of my thoughts.

which ego? mine? well maybe you are correct, but you will never convince me of anything that you think that is alternate to what i think.

i have no idea who on this site really does have asperger's syndrome. i only have my inclinations that i will certainly not say publicly. i never said anyone certainly does not have it, and i think that you are drawing me into a debate as to who has a valid "membership card" to the consortium who is allowed to discuss their ideas about AS.

your conversational style needs much work from me to fill in the "blanks"



people who are hanging do not have their feet on the ground so they obviously could not be "standing". i am not sure why you have chosen to bother me with your disgruntlement but i will terminate the transaction now by saying i could not care less about your assertions.

you are free to move on, and so am i. if you disagree with that, then i am gone anyway, so you will enjoy your disagreement on your own (uninterruptedly).

sorry i do not wish to sound harsh or whatever. i have not much control over what i choose to say. i have only control over what i think, and maybe i should have more control over whether i should broadcast what i think.

stay safe and good bye to you.

Technology is not a part of the diagnostic requirments, so one can not connect technology with autism spectrum disorders; but one can describe technology as a special interest. In the same way is aggressive behavior not a part of the diagnostic requirments, and so murder can not be linked with autism spectrum disorder, but a person with autism spectrum disorder can in the same way as all kind of other persons commits murder. If one following the diagnostic classification one should know for sure what can be said about autism spectrum disorders or not; a common sense meaning can not battle this.

Wat makes you think this? Autism isn't the same for everyone. I do believe there are people who have depression and related disorders too.

I don't think you can really comment; as you don't know people on here like that. Some of us act completely on here than we do in real life.

@B9

With regard to double quotes and grammar errors – i remind myself this is a forum not an English essay. I was quoting you and I was nor forcing an error into your person. I rarely use forums and cant embed a you tube video or use quotes properly.

I generally use forum language which i regard as more relaxed than the formal essay writing you seem to want to point score on. I write how I would talk on here as its a forum.

I am not keen to waste my energy either, your ego is just wild and unrefined. You think the word “lazily” is respectful and yet then project the actual belief “you may be correct in what you say, but i am too lazy to drill in to your logic. it is like panning for gold in the kitchen sink.”

Basically you are an assuming egomaniacal person.

I do not believe the issue is about a membership card. The issue is your wailing ego and crass ignorance. I do use a conversational style because this is not supposed to be work for me. Again expecting large efforts rather than quickly fired off posts is your ego insisting on itself.

With regards to “stand hanging” the impossibility of it IS the point. And again you could care less as rather obviously your reply represents some level of care.

Here:

http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/narcissistic.htm

I'm with B9

He's bone fide autistic - it's obvious from the manner in which he interprets the world
and if he chooses to think a lot of people on here aren't on the autistic spectrum that's
his perogative

I tend to agree with him

And telling a person who is autistic they are ego-maniacal is like telling a blind person they can't see!

Autism is all about the self! - Auto = self

It's this not being willing to give an autistic person a break as regards exhibiting classic autistic behaviour that always makes
me exceedingly suspicious

It makes me think 'Whose side are you on exactly?'

And telling a person who is autistic they are ego-maniacal is like telling a blind person they can't see!

agreed. Hence i at least tried to get them to consider observing ego. Its not like the functions of ego are something that can not be learnt.

I actually tend to think most of the people who say they're autistic actually are. If they're not, they likely have real problems that led them to explore autism as a possibility.

I think that implicitly questioning the validity of other people's assessments and diagnoses (that is, saying so without naming names) is the way some (not all) people who post such things play "more autistic than thou," so it is something that I tend to think is best avoided. I do not think that's what b9 was saying in his post (although I disagree with his assessment).

I find it strange that some people on this forum feel the need to characterize attitudes and opinions they dislike as "NT" or as pathological in some other way (such as narcissism), as if any one person could be the expert arbiter on what constitutes a legitimate autistic expression of thought and ideas and what does not. The entire idea that one's opinions are not "autistic enough" to pass muster is ludicrous, and yet it seems to be invoked often enough by some posters in place of rational argument.

I scored a 4...

I did it because it was just easier. When I use the quotes the posters name is absent and I just took the lazy route of the link. Arguments are rather pointless uses of time.

To be fair, that test does suck.

ego and its narcissism function usefully only when they are balanced, but destructive when they are not. I think this applies to the whole tone and manner of that diatribe post and those that followed.

However I should have maybe kept my mouth shut.

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I think it is actually difficult to judge b9's (as well as many other autistic people's) posts by more "mainstream" standards. I think he comes across much harsher than he actually is, but that's just my observation after a few interactions (and disagreements) with him in the past.

I too dislike the phrase "we aspies" it sits wrong with me. If I wanted to be a part of a herd I would not be here. Blood test I would prefer a DNA test. I hate needles I would rather shoot myself with a nail gun again.
A diagnosis would not an imposition or an identity but rather an explanation for me. If I am not ASD or AS(AS is a part of the ASD) then I am just a freak.

I always just took him for being blunt, if anything.

Then again, I suck at "tone."

I'm in no position to criticize someone for being "blunt" as I'm usually the same way.

This is what I was trying to say, but I forgot the word "blunt."



Exactly. Well, exactly for me, not sure about anyone else.