Does "Mild Aspergers Syndrome" exist?
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Sorry I hope this is OK to say in this thread! I just saw this here and wanted to say, I am a visual thinker. =)
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Ditto ^
Though I don't thrive as much as someone with my present IQ is supposed to and a poor timed shutdown can equal disaster. I take a long time to recover from setbacks. I think it is a disability and that support services should be always available to ensure minimal independent living and coping therapies are offered. Just because an amputee learns to walk, even run a marathon doesn't mean the legs are not missing. I know that "handi-capable " is the PC thing of the day but the movement actually is causing a marginalizing of the ones that CAN"T mainstream. Little Susie had Autism bad, and look at that great job she has and her family... why can't You do that Johnny?
I don't think the word "mild" of myself or others. I think "responded well to training". But even in NT world not everyone retains training well.
My older kids are "mild" "borderline" because they were verbal. Therefore I started on them immediate as they showed, and they learned to pretend to fit in. I started correcting my daughters turned in foot that was like dad and uncle instead of being passive with doctors wait and see til age 3 attittude. Same with my older son being non verbal and strange from start. Their dad refused to have them tested.
Granted, they will suffer in relationships and life now that the protective layer of school-age is withdrawn. Specially my daughter that had a ton of expectations thrown on her by other family. He did not do anyone a favor but his ego. Ya, his kids are not autistic as his cousin or diagnosed once as ret*d like him.
My youngest is considered severe autism because he cannot communicate with outsiders and NTs in set environments. His onset was late so I had not been training him intensively to ready him for hurdles, I was instead enjoying a child that was problem free, smart and bilingual after years of anxiety trying to insure success for his siblings.. I kinda failed for him because I was not able to adapt to his sudden (2 weeks) change quick enough to be of help for him, and kind of mourned him for a year.
He will not be able to live independently in his current condition. But he is 10 so I have hope to get him at least potty trained and to use at least PECS or his ipad to communicate. He will talk in MMOs (brusque and clipped, but response to party members is still response) and he sings.
It's tough on me, but I am homeschooling him this year to give him a break from the crappy school that is near my mother. That place is a nightmare in environment and the staff is medieval. He'd be better off in normal class of one of the smaller older close schools as a slow kid. (he is on bus 2.6 hours to go to school this county sticks him with and is gone 630am-5:00pm. )
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Mild Aspergers exists.
It is important that one does not confuse looking and acting NT like, and the severity level of a persons Aspergers as they are not the same thing. Through intense study of how NT's act and ferocious will power a non mild Aspie can "pass" well. While looking fine on the outside one can be tearing oneself up on the inside because of constant constant exahustive effort and anxiety about slipping up and unintentionally revealing your true Autistic self to the world.
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DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity.
I believe that the relatively recent research into the Broader Autism Phenotype (BAP) suggests something beyond Asperger syndrome (AS) which is already at the "mild" end of the DSM-5 spectrum. BAP, therefore, could be the "mild" AS that is discussed here.
Unfortunately for my own opinion, the research of BAP has been limited to familial cohorts of members with one or more diagnosed Autism Spectrum disorders (ASDs).
Still, I see a future for BAP beyond the limits of current research. Maybe, then, Jerry Seinfeld could get his diagnosis, too. ![]()
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Its not an official diagnostic label.
Aspergers has been subsumed under the rubric of "high functioning autism". So "mild asperger's" would be "high functioning.... high functioning autism", or "mild...mild autism". Many folks are offended by the larger labels of "low" and "high" functioning autism. So subdividing one of the subdivision would cause them to scream. And perhaps rightly so. The larger subdivisions are useful enough to be useful. But when you start subdividing the subdivisions (and then start to stack them in a hierarchy) its starts to get like putting a newspaper photo under a microscope expecting to see finer details of the picture when all you're gonna see is the big black dots of ink that make up the picture as it is crudely printed off the Newspaper's printing press. The label of aspergers is already a crude approximation. So subdividing it is doubly crude.
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Aspergers has been subsumed under the rubric of "high functioning autism". So "mild asperger's" would be "high functioning.... high functioning autism", or "mild...mild autism". Many folks are offended by the larger labels of "low" and "high" functioning autism. So subdividing one of the subdivision would cause them to scream. And perhaps rightly so. The larger subdivisions are useful enough to be useful. But when you start subdividing the subdivisions (and then start to stack them in a hierarchy) its starts to get like putting a newspaper photo under a microscope expecting to see finer details of the picture when all you're gonna see is the big black dots of ink that make up the picture as it is crudely printed off the Newspaper's printing press. The label of aspergers is already a crude approximation. So subdividing it is doubly crude.
Aspergers and other conditions were not subsumed into high functioning autism. Aspergers and several other labels were subsumed in Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 1, Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 2, and Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 3. The other terms are still used but they are colloquial labels not diagnostic ones.
I completly disagree with subdivision of labels. There should be more subdivisions, much more. We should subdividing by traits such as ASPartOfMe has Autism with moderate to severe Executive functioning difficulties, mild sensory sensitivities etc.
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