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25 May 2009, 4:38 am

Hrm. I had no idea about this band. The irritatingly short little blip samples on 'Amazon' are great.

That R. Crumb has rare and pleasing taste in music is about all I remember about that movie.

Now I am once again grumbling bitterly that DRAM and NAXOS don't have that kind of stuff. And that their interfaces suck so bad you can't properly search them anyway. O vile fate.



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25 May 2009, 9:40 am

Heroes of Blues Jazz and Country is another book with a CD that is amazing....I would put that on repeat play for hours when we were working on the new SHFL location. It was lent to us by my friend who gave me the Cheap Suit CD....i can't find it though...I think somebody mighta hid it... :wink:



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25 May 2009, 12:25 pm

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Robert is in Minnesota visiting family before taking care of business in Madison, then flying back to France.
Naturally he hates marketing, who doesn't?! I've been visiting in France for the past 15 years and can say that the European Union, created to enhance the business environment, has aided in an ever increasing commercialsim in France, though it's doubtful they will ever catch up with US.
I'm glad you liked the Cheap Suits...Robert tends to be embarrassed by the "amateurish" quality, which is strange because in the old recordings he loves so much, this is perceived as heart and soul! I'll see if I can get a copy made of the CD in my copy of Crumb Handbook...I haven't listened to it yet. He took my mandolin to a old time country music jam session in my small Pacific Northwest town but was intimidated by the skill level of the musicians and chickened out. I cannot imagine doing anything that would cause attention to be focused on me so this seems normal.
It's been agreeable reading your blog and I'm relieved that you've been nice. Another old friend of Robert's, Diane Hanson discovered this site and told Robert about it. Robert and I only just heard of Asperger's about 3 years ago. When I arrived in Paris for our annual visit, he greeted me with a New Yorker article written by an Aspie and he said, "we both have Asperger's". So there you go....


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27 May 2009, 10:52 pm

Thank you.



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27 May 2009, 11:05 pm

I have a lot of recordings from Robert's collection and much of it is now on my MP3 Player and online on"Zune".
Although I do data management at work, I'm not familiar with this music software...but if I ever figure it out, I believe it will be possible to share with anyone that wants to provide an email address and create a zune login. I'm well aware that most people do not love this old music as much as I do but it's nice to share just in case this one or that one should develop a passion against all odds.
In addition to all sorts of old American music, "The Collection" includes a lot of old recordings from all over the world although Asia is not well represented.
Snippets are really annoying...can't use'em!



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27 May 2009, 11:25 pm

oooh...i am pretty much unfamiliar with most music software...but I do love old-Americana etc.....I will PM you my e-mail address and attempt to figure it out.

I am a ukulele player..and nuts for old-obscure music.



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28 May 2009, 11:37 am

This is promising! Are you a young person..I'm not...I've been here 56 interesting years. It's particularly pleasing when a young person appreciates the old stuff...the sensibility is almost exactly opposite of the modern world we live in. I'm not sure what "PM" means but I'll try to figure it out and reciprocate. On Sunday, I'll see if I can figure out the zune thing atr work. I seem to have a different view from my work computer which I suspect means I didn't correctly transfer all of the files to my external hard drive....the necessary evil of technology is wearisome at times.



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31 May 2009, 10:11 pm

Wow. This is unreal 8O



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01 Jun 2009, 1:56 am

Wish I could help, but I don't have a Zune (or an iPod, for that matter).


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01 Jun 2009, 1:04 pm

To add to the unrealness, after I posted I started flipping channels on the tube and find the Crumb documentary playing on Ovation TV.

So not only is this thread talking about Mr. Crumb but Mr. Crumb himself serendipitously jumps on 8O , and as if that weren't enough, soon after posting my reaction to this, I stumble onto the tail-end of the Crumb documentary on tv. I mean the chances of all that... :chin: Synchronicity is spooky.



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01 Jun 2009, 6:34 pm

An IT friend at work sort of talked me into the MP3 player and baby-sat me through the set up. I only listen to it on the flights to and from France and the flights for the one business trip I take a year. I'm still amazed at how much less awful it is to spend up to 20 hours airporting & flying now that I can comfort myself with music I love. I didn't really expect the "completely different frame of mind" thing that happens while listening to music to work on a plane but it did, just like magic!
An old musician friend of mine (we went to school together k-12) recently sent me this endearing and amusing message:
Well, well, well.......,
"So we travel to Paris not only for the culture but for
romance............?? Now, from yer' description.....sitting in a
chair, rocking, oblivious to the world around you.............makes you
a drummer!!"
Thank goodness for the eyes of our friendly beholders.



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02 Jun 2009, 1:29 am

cav wrote:
This is promising! Are you a young person..I'm not...I've been here 56 interesting years. It's particularly pleasing when a young person appreciates the old stuff...the sensibility is almost exactly opposite of the modern world we live in. I'm not sure what "PM" means but I'll try to figure it out and reciprocate. On Sunday, I'll see if I can figure out the zune thing atr work. I seem to have a different view from my work computer which I suspect means I didn't correctly transfer all of the files to my external hard drive....the necessary evil of technology is wearisome at times.


i am 33...young enuff I guess ...I have always loved Antiquities...I have always felt really connected more to the past than to the present...I am generally too overwhelmed with the things I do for a living to let that part of me thrive lately..but I have had these feelings ever since I was a child. I used to insist that there were no good movies made after 1950...I know better now...but if I had constant access to old movies, it would be all I watched. I used to obsessively collect vintage clothes and hats as a teenager and I was really interested in the evolution of fashion from the turn of the century into the early 60's ...I am good at finding antiques at garage sales and I covet them...I could sincerely forsake all other music and listen to nothing but music from the 20s and 30's..but I don't really have that option...I am very very picky about my modern music though..
I have also always collected vintage and homemade vintage toys...mostly stuffed toys...



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02 Jun 2009, 3:44 am

cav wrote:
I believe it will be possible to share with anyone that wants to provide an email address and create a zune login. I'm well aware that most people do not love this old music as much as I do but it's nice to share just in case this one or that one should develop a passion against all odds.


Please do. I'd love to have it.

Really, it'd be cooler to place them on their own site, in an archival-quality format. (.wav) though I suppose that might get pricy to host. If you want to try it, I could see if a library might want them. Probably a very large chunk of them are public domain. I understand that a fair bit of music recorded in the 30's was to begin with, and anything predating 1928 is very likely to be. ("Steamboat Willie" appeared in 1928, and the Disney corporations desperate and futile attempts to prevent people from drawing pornographic representations of 'Mickey Mouse' have had a remarkable effect on American copyright law.)

I'm 34. I know a guy in his twenties who suprised me by being into this sort of music.

Ever hear The Handsome Family, poopylungstuffing?



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02 Jun 2009, 11:56 am

I have only marginally heard bits and pieces from them here and there. It has been a while since i have explored any new bands(as in bands I am unfamiliar with--(outside of the perpetual bombardment of the 100+bands that play at my place every month)....maybe they will be next.

One of my favorite internet radio stations is http://www.weirdsville.com I mainly only listen to the "Swank" channel...They have some neet oldies....I like the various Reefer songs.

It would be awesome if the songs could be accessible in a format like the one on Weirdsville. It is easy to find and easy to access...at least I think so...



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02 Jun 2009, 4:42 pm

Electric_Kite wrote:
Really, it'd be cooler to place them on their own site, in an archival-quality format. (.wav) though I suppose that might get pricy to host. If you want to try it, I could see if a library might want them. Probably a very large chunk of them are public domain.


FLAC would be better than WAV, since it's compressed (but still lossless, like WAV). And if it is, in fact, public domain, I'm sure Archive.org would host it...but I don't know how that works, I've never submitted anything there.

Apparently they're not very strict, I often find tons of worthless junk there :x Poorly encoded videos, duplicates, stuff like that.


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02 Jun 2009, 6:04 pm

Okay, so I have no idea what all this technology is....I would love nothing better than to know about it, have access to it and the resources to put it "out there" for anyone with an interest. Since some of Robert's old musician friends have started moving their collections to digital, he's less resistent to the idea. But I have heard that there are some subtle sound waves available on analog that do not "cross over" to digital. This is of no concern to me personally since my hearing does not encompass that level of subtlety anyway. I just want to make sure that you are all aware that these are "homemade" recordings from 78s. Many people cannot listen to them because the "scratchy" sound [more likely to be intrusive if it's a rare recording, some old blues and at least one rare Dennis Magee (cajun fiddler) disc in Robert's collection] so completely overwhelms their experience of the music. Connoisseurs’ insist that one must be very careful about (technically) decreasing the scratchy effect in order to maintain the integrity of the recording. A friend of Robert's is a sound engineer and I'll print out these technical suggestions and send them to France so Robert can discuss them with the sound engineer who will be visiting in France later this summer. Perhaps he'd be willing to take this project on, who knows? Meanwhile I'll start researching...