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14 Aug 2015, 2:46 am

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Remembered this thread a while back and looked it up for reference.

A bit of a long shot, but I miiiight need MRI scans of my brain to prove it's ASD wiring. I've put some feelers out to a couple of friends in the medical community to see if I might just be able to negotiate said scans for free via one of their contacts or a University research hospital. If not, and I Need them, well.. there's an MRI clinic a few blocks away from my house & worst case scenario if I Need MRI brain scans to prove my ASD brain wiring, then I might just have to pay for them - which wouldn't be so terrible, anyways, because then I'd take the files and have them blown up and printed, framed, and hang them on my wall. :D 8)

don't know about the great white north, but down here an out-of-pocket MRI would easily set you back 4 big ones assuming you could get a doc to sign off on it.


Wouldn't happen. There is no particular scan result that can prove someone has ASD. No insurance company will pay for it.



Define "4 big ones" - is that $400.00 or $4000.00? I thought I heard that MRI's run about $350 here. I've yet to look it up.

Just googled & one private clinic in Vancouver charges $825.00 + extra charges for any contrast materials etc. Another charges $875.00.

I have some friends in University and others who are doctors etc that I can ask to see if they can hook me up. I was also told that there's a clinic that will do MRI's in barter for other services. I'm an educated guy - I might just be able to trade some time and skills for MRI's.

As for there being no scan that proves ASD, lol that's what this entire thread is about! Read this link: http://www.sciencealert.com/in-people-w ... dy-reveals


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14 Aug 2015, 2:47 am

going rate locally for an MRI is about $3k - $4k. but south of the border ALL medical procedures are multiples more expensive.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:54 am

Hello Goldfish, according to the article the scans of NT brains show a pattern where as the ND scans do not have any comparable patterns. If you did arrange a scan and analysis, at whatever cost, the only result you could possibly achieve is to theoretically define either NT or ND. It would still not prove that you have a specific condition. I would save the money for something more constructive personally.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:58 am

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Hello Goldfish, according to the article the scans of NT brains show a pattern where as the ND scans do not have any comparable patterns. If you did arrange a scan and analysis, at whatever cost, the only result you could possibly achieve is to theoretically define either NT or ND. It would still not prove that you have a specific condition. I would save the money for something more constructive personally.

what is your opinion on the SPECT scan that dr. amen talks about?



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14 Aug 2015, 4:18 am

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Hello Goldfish, according to the article the scans of NT brains show a pattern where as the ND scans do not have any comparable patterns. If you did arrange a scan and analysis, at whatever cost, the only result you could possibly achieve is to theoretically define either NT or ND. It would still not prove that you have a specific condition. I would save the money for something more constructive personally.


I comprehend how to interpret the results. Not NT is a significant result. It'll be especially worth while doing if I can manage to get it done for free or very inexpensively/in trade.


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14 Aug 2015, 4:21 am

AuntBlabby - It's an interesting topic but I don't know enough about either the process or that doctor to make any useful comments.

Goldfish - Okay, let us know what you discover.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:22 am

goldfish21 wrote:
I comprehend how to interpret the results. Not NT is a significant result. It'll be especially worth while doing if I can manage to get it done for free or very inexpensively/in trade.

what is your opinion on dr. amen's SPECT scan for rooting out what you are looking for? and how does one get an MRI "in trade"?



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14 Aug 2015, 4:24 am

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It's an interesting topic but I don't know enough about either the process or that doctor to make any useful comments.

it is a functional real-time visualization/analysis of brain blood uptake/neural functioning under cognitive load. I would love to have one but down here they cost $3k. only Cadillac plans [blue cross/shield] insurance will pay for it.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:26 am

He has a fairly large number of critics too



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14 Aug 2015, 4:27 am

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He has a fairly large number of critics too

that he does, but his book really opened my eyes about what was addling me, and offered useful advice as to how to ameliorate at least some of the symptoms. I really want to know where and how my brain is falling down so that I can better know how to work around those places.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:33 am

As long as you approach these things with open eyes so to speak. It's good you have found some useful advice, maybe the scans will become more accessible but thats probably just ice-cream-pie-in-the-sky thinking on my part.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:35 am

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As long as you approach these things with open eyes so to speak. It's good you have found some useful advice, maybe the scans will become more accessible but thats probably just ice-cream-pie-in-the-sky thinking on my part.

in America that is not likely but at least dr. amen is building up a serious database of results so as to provide a passive form of something akin to a look-up table of symptoms versus specific brain defect areas.



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14 Aug 2015, 5:08 am

You have just prompted me into starting to do some reading and research.
Thank you very much.
I feel I have been mostly stagnating lately.



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14 Aug 2015, 5:16 am

^^^
prego, mon frère :) when my health started prematurely deteriorating, I was forced to do lots of research on free or low cost ways to fix things.



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14 Aug 2015, 12:09 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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I comprehend how to interpret the results. Not NT is a significant result. It'll be especially worth while doing if I can manage to get it done for free or very inexpensively/in trade.

what is your opinion on dr. amen's SPECT scan for rooting out what you are looking for? and how does one get an MRI "in trade"?


Never heard of SPECT scan so no comment. I have heard of Dr. Amen before as it was the Amen Test for ADHD that I took near the very start of my ~4 year journey of figuring all of this stuff out.

Umm, the same way one gets anything in trade... you trade for it? Bartering has been around longer than currency. It's pretty simple. I trade my labour or services for their MRI scan services. I've built everything from spreadsheets to warehouses.. I can do demolition or finishing carpentry, sales, marketing, number crunching, cleaning, mechanical repairs.. whatever - I can do anything I need to in the moment, I only need two things: The resources & the process. Someone told me there's an MRI clinic that will do MRI's in trade for other services.. so, if I can't get hooked up for free & that's less expensive for me than paying cash, I'll make some sort of deal with the Doctor that owns that place.


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14 Aug 2015, 5:19 pm

I always KNEW I was unique! Haha! :-D
Now, I wonder just HOW unique I am?... :wink:


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