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10 Feb 2015, 9:55 pm

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I think that what a lot of my deaf friends who are not autistic do would be considered to be very rude but is accepted and actually preferred to at my school, which is a school for deaf students.

What they usually do to get one another person's attention is wave their hand in front of the person's face or flash the lights in the room on and off briefly. This is very much preferred at my school because even with their hearing devices, the person might not hear their name being called. My family members (who aren't autistic) sometimes wave their hands in front of my face to get my attention. I don't mind this though. I'm used to it. I'd rather have someone wave their hands in front of my face than screaming my name (which I sometimes don't respond to either) to get my attention.



If someone is hearing impaired, then no, that's not rude at all - it makes sense to do that. :)


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10 Feb 2015, 10:23 pm

Cannibalize each other verbally, seriously it's like watching a feeding frenzy and no one gives a crap.
Cutting me off mid sentence or talking in huge word walls, which I'm never quick enough to process to jump into so by the end of it any relevant input I might have had at any point besides the end is lost in the sea. And then when they make comments about why I don't talk much.
Treating others terribly and then playing the victim to gain followers and pity. Those individuals that were once bullied and now have become bullies themselves. The worst part is they seem to thrive in the world today.



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11 Feb 2015, 12:25 am

Prying and asking questions about things that are none of there business.



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11 Feb 2015, 2:56 am

conundrum wrote:
DarkAscent wrote:
I think that what a lot of my deaf friends who are not autistic do would be considered to be very rude but is accepted and actually preferred to at my school, which is a school for deaf students.

What they usually do to get one another person's attention is wave their hand in front of the person's face or flash the lights in the room on and off briefly. This is very much preferred at my school because even with their hearing devices, the person might not hear their name being called. My family members (who aren't autistic) sometimes wave their hands in front of my face to get my attention. I don't mind this though. I'm used to it. I'd rather have someone wave their hands in front of my face than screaming my name (which I sometimes don't respond to either) to get my attention.



If someone is hearing impaired, then no, that's not rude at all - it makes sense to do that. :)


Thanks. :)

But I guess that people who are less understanding or less experiences with disabilities would find it to be invasive of their personal space and so very rude.



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11 Feb 2015, 5:59 am

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I get really thrown off when people make comments about my groceries.

Lady in front of me at checkout, "Wow someone's eating healthy, good for you." --- me just stare blankly at her until she walks off.

Another time some woman comes up to me in an aisle and says, "Your avocado looks so sad all alone in your cart." --- me, "Is there a problem with my shopping?" while staring blankly at her until she looked for help from some other person with her, who said nothing, so then they walked off.

Also this one lady who works a cash register that EVERY SINGLE TIME feels it necessary to comment on my purchase. I deliberately avoid her register now because it just makes me feel so uncomfortable.

That's really strange. I've never really had that happen to me. Thank God no one asks why I buy overnight pads.... They would get a strange answer.



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11 Feb 2015, 7:53 am

Not only do people talk to me when I'm reading, but they'll cover the page with their hands, scream in my ear, insult me, and then, if I still don't respond, tell me how rude I'm being. Reading is an activity that broadcasts that you are busy! Ignoring someone generally means that you don't want to talk! Why is this so hard to understand?



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11 Feb 2015, 7:56 am

They have a double standard for what they do which I find unacceptable, and what they themselves do.

Case in point, my fiance got angry that i was talking through some TV that she could easily pause. yet she'll look at her phone for the first ten minutes of a movie then spend the rest of the time asking me whats happening because she doesn't know whats going on.

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11 Feb 2015, 1:13 pm

Sometimes some NTs and their behaviors make me convinced that I'm living in an enviroment where the stronger tears off the weaker for fun



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11 Feb 2015, 4:49 pm

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Sometimes some NTs and their behaviors make me convinced that I'm living in an enviroment where the stronger tears off the weaker for fun


Some of them do take great delight in capitalizing on the weak. My oldest sister was (and still is to a degree) like that. When I was growing up I could always count on her to beat the living daylights out of me when the adults weren't looking. She knew I was easy to catch and pound on because I always fell when I tried to run.

I have to wonder too about the lack of empathy I see in a good number of NTs- many of them show far less consideration for the rights of others than they could, or should. Then again, I'm beginning to believe a good portion of the population has been/ is being raised by wolves. :heart: :skull:


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11 Feb 2015, 5:17 pm

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Not only do people talk to me when I'm reading, but they'll cover the page with their hands, scream in my ear, insult me, and then, if I still don't respond, tell me how rude I'm being. Reading is an activity that broadcasts that you are busy! Ignoring someone generally means that you don't want to talk! Why is this so hard to understand?


Sounds like these people never learned basic concepts of politeness when they were kids: "don't interrupt", "wait your turn", "keep your hands to yourself".... :roll:

Am I just getting old, or are such things no longer considered to be important?


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11 Feb 2015, 5:39 pm

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Sometimes some NTs and their behaviors make me convinced that I'm living in an enviroment where the stronger tears off the weaker for fun


Some of them do take great delight in capitalizing on the weak. My oldest sister was (and still is to a degree) like that. When I was growing up I could always count on her to beat the living daylights out of me when the adults weren't looking. She knew I was easy to catch and pound on because I always fell when I tried to run.

I have to wonder too about the lack of empathy I see in a good number of NTs- many of them show far less consideration for the rights of others than they could, or should. Then again, I'm beginning to believe a good portion of the population has been/ is being raised by wolves. :heart: :skull:


Some of them tear off the weaker by using them and making use of the 'weakness' of that person for inconvenient reasons, I think it's unfair, there's this girl in class who talks a lot and gets hated about it because she's fat and doesn't know how to dress- she gets bullied about it and not even teachers like her, there are people more talkative than her and more annoying but I guess no one hates on them for that because they have the qualifications of being 'stronger', I really hate when people do that to others
I agree with this and I think most people's behaviors is the product of whatever raised them



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11 Feb 2015, 6:11 pm

Many share a blind faith in the ideology of unfettered individualism to the extent that they feel justified in putting down/slurring off at anyone who doesn't share that ideology. The rudeness component is trying to force the rightness of their own beliefs on others and sneering at people who differ from themselves. They are like religious fundamentalists, same personalities, different beliefs, same tactics, same limitations of thinking re the bigger picture. They can both act like believers whose duty it is to persecute "heretics". This more than "appears" rude, it is rude, and ignorant, IMO.



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11 Feb 2015, 7:32 pm

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Many share a blind faith in the ideology of unfettered individualism to the extent that they feel justified in putting down/slurring off at anyone who doesn't share that ideology. The rudeness component is trying to force the rightness of their own beliefs on others and sneering at people who differ from themselves. They are like religious fundamentalists, same personalities, different beliefs, same tactics, same limitations of thinking re the bigger picture. They can both act like believers whose duty it is to persecute "heretics". This more than "appears" rude, it is rude, and ignorant, IMO.


Very well-said, and quite true.


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11 Feb 2015, 7:36 pm

conundrum wrote:
Greenhat wrote:
Not only do people talk to me when I'm reading, but they'll cover the page with their hands, scream in my ear, insult me, and then, if I still don't respond, tell me how rude I'm being. Reading is an activity that broadcasts that you are busy! Ignoring someone generally means that you don't want to talk! Why is this so hard to understand?


Sounds like these people never learned basic concepts of politeness when they were kids: "don't interrupt", "wait your turn", "keep your hands to yourself".... :roll:

Am I just getting old, or are such things no longer considered to be important?

I blame my school's apparent ignorance of basic civility and respect. The teachers seem to have given up on the finer points of politeness, as it's all they can do to keep the kids in their seats and the noise level below deafening.



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11 Feb 2015, 8:36 pm

I HATE it when I'm interrupted while I'm in the middle of something, particularly if it's something I'm focused intensely on, like a conversation I'm having with another person, or something I'm reading or working on. It's like people don't understand that I can't do two things at once, and that I can't focus on two things at once. I don't have a multicore brain!

Also, when I'm touched unexpectedly, particularly when I'm tapped on the shoulder, that drives me f*****g nuts!



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11 Feb 2015, 8:58 pm

Zajie wrote:
elysian1969 wrote:
Zajie wrote:
Sometimes some NTs and their behaviors make me convinced that I'm living in an enviroment where the stronger tears off the weaker for fun


Some of them do take great delight in capitalizing on the weak. My oldest sister was (and still is to a degree) like that. When I was growing up I could always count on her to beat the living daylights out of me when the adults weren't looking. She knew I was easy to catch and pound on because I always fell when I tried to run.

I have to wonder too about the lack of empathy I see in a good number of NTs- many of them show far less consideration for the rights of others than they could, or should. Then again, I'm beginning to believe a good portion of the population has been/ is being raised by wolves. :heart: :skull:


Some of them tear off the weaker by using them and making use of the 'weakness' of that person for inconvenient reasons, I think it's unfair, there's this girl in class who talks a lot and gets hated about it because she's fat and doesn't know how to dress- she gets bullied about it and not even teachers like her, there are people more talkative than her and more annoying but I guess no one hates on them for that because they have the qualifications of being 'stronger', I really hate when people do that to others
I agree with this and I think most people's behaviors is the product of whatever raised them

I remember in middle school when kids would make fun of me for some of the dumb things I said out of social skills problems, but they weren't exactly mature or geniuses.

Another thing I think is rude is when people take things from you without asking. I remember getting mad at this one girl in my 8th grade science class for just randomly taking school supplies out of my pencil bag without asking for permission.