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Do you like the word/term "Aspie"?
Definately yes 36%  36%  [ 22 ]
Rather yes 23%  23%  [ 14 ]
Rather no 8%  8%  [ 5 ]
Definately no 33%  33%  [ 20 ]
Total votes : 61

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21 Feb 2015, 8:45 am

I prefer to use ASD, or when talking to people who won't know what that means, 'autism spectrum disorder'.
It is very inclusive, not derogatory, and generally seems to stop people from falling for any of the asinine stereotypes that we are all too familiar with. Unless of course they don't know what a spectrum is...
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21 Feb 2015, 8:57 am

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I think it's great if folks with Aspergers can name and see themselves in a fun, positive way. I feel excluded in discussions though when they are about 'Aspies'. I didn't speak until I was 4 years old, and I was diagnosed with autism as a kid. So I wonder if I fit in those discussions, and if I can relate. I remember my mom's reaction when they told her I had autism. It's been a long road in accepting myself and if fun names like 'Aspie' or 'autie' help people to see themselves in a more happy and positive way, then that's a wonderful thing.


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21 Feb 2015, 12:12 pm

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Perhaps I'm not the only one who reads Aspie as ass pee. I don't want to go around telling people I'm an ass pee. Autistic sounds much nicer. ;)

What about discussing your ass penis?

Back to the juvenile jokes my friends and I were making about this word (unfortunately we're all legally adults), "having your aspieness measured" is what we called the ASD assessment. Embracing your aspieness can improve your health and overall well-being. If you're also asexual, your aspieness may even be deeply intertwined with your a-ness.



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21 Feb 2015, 12:22 pm

I used to not like the term, but now I do. I am proud to call myself an Aspie.



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21 Feb 2015, 12:47 pm

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ominous wrote:
I think that this discussion is always interesting, because y'all 'Aspies' seem to wish to avoid being thought of as people like myself, you know, 'autistic' types. Aspie is cute and you can make comparisons to Bill Gates, etc.

I like what Autistic Hoya has to say about functioning labels. And frankly, I prefer the word autistic from a linguistic standpoint, and don't feel the need to differentiate myself as 'better than' or 'higher functioning' than my non-verbal, autistic brothers and sisters. :)

http://www.autistichoya.com/2012/04/fun ... ructs.html


Slander.
Of course there are Aspie elitists that don't want associate with "autistics" but in my experience here and in support groups they are a minority. So I should not call myself a New Yorker just an American because there certainly are a few New York elitists, Because of Madeoff and a few other crooks I shall be shall stop calling myself a
Jew. After all I don't want to wonder if people think I am going to "Jew them down". If I were of Italian background it would be a good idea to drop that name because of the Mafia.

Of course New Yorkers, Jews and Italians keep there name while calling themselves American, British or whatever. But since we "aspies" have been officially written out so we got to accept and agree with what not to many other groups agree to do these days, just accept the internalized prejudice.

Not liking the way a word sounds is fine, debating the merits of functioning labels is fine, slandering a group just is not.


Woo. I have no idea what you are on about. Slander is 'a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report' and I'm not sure how you extrapolate "slander" from my post. It's a fairly common statement amongst autistics in the autistic rights movement. Surely we aren't all 'slandering'.

http://autisticadvocacy.org/policy-advo ... tatements/

and

http://musingsofanaspie.com/2013/06/26/ ... ing-label/

and

I could link on but there's plenty online about functioning labels and how they are problematic for those interested.


All I see in the two links is arguments against functioning labels which I said in my post I really don't have a problem with. My problem with you is this statement " because y'all 'Aspies' seem to wish to avoid being thought of as people like myself, you know, 'autistic' types." Not some of you, not a few of you, "y all" and that is a "malicious, false, and defamatory statement" What you are doing to us is similar to what you accuse "y'all" of doing.

For the record I identify as Autistic, Aspie or Aspie-Autistic. A far as functioning labels I was diagnosed as "moderately severe" Aspergers in the DSM IV and ASD sans level in the DSM 5.


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21 Feb 2015, 12:52 pm

EyeDash wrote:
I think it's great if folks with Aspergers can name and see themselves in a fun, positive way. I feel excluded in discussions though when they are about 'Aspies'. I didn't speak until I was 4 years old, and I was diagnosed with autism as a kid. So I wonder if I fit in those discussions, and if I can relate. I remember my mom's reaction when they told her I had autism. It's been a long road in accepting myself and if fun names like 'Aspie' or 'autie' help people to see themselves in a more happy and positive way, then that's a wonderful thing.


I try and use wording based on the thread. If it an Aspie thread use that. Autistic I use that. If I am not sure I try and use autistic, ASD, or on the spectrum. If you are falsely assumed to be an "Aspie" please correct the falsehood


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21 Feb 2015, 1:09 pm

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It's a flawed comparison to suggest calling yourself a Jew, Italian, or American is the same as calling yourself Aspie or Autistic. Heritage and/or national/local area labels aren't functioning labels. I sincerely doubt the majority in society who have heard of Italians would say, 'Oh, yes, an Italian-American, I imagine you don't need a support worker full time like those other Americans. You are really lucky to be able to work! I bet you're glad you're not as low functioning as those other Americans. I could probably deal with an Italian-American child, but I think parenting one of those other Americans would be really hard.'


Maybe before your time but Italian-Americans did raise a ruckus because of the stereotypes in the Godfather movies. Whether it's functioning, heritage, sexuality, or gender a person should be able to identify as they please and have a right to b***h when the group they identify with is falsely accused.

I am sure for the gay people it would have been convenient to drop the "silly" label when the AIDS crisis hit and the mortality was high and people would walk on the other side of the street if they thought you were gay. But to thier credit they did not and now it is paying off.


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21 Feb 2015, 2:04 pm

I don't care too much honestly as I avoid talking about it in general IRL and don't volunteer that information about myself to others unless I have to, I don't really identify as it but it what it is and my diagnosis says Asperger's Syndrome. I identify as person, myself. If I'm speaking at all about it for whatever reason, I'd probably just something vague like 'the spectrum' as it would be someone in the know about it anyways.



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21 Feb 2015, 2:33 pm

I don't especially like the term Aspie. It doesn't bother me if others use it, but I do not want to be called an Aspie.

I do get tired of seeing people here talk as if everyone who posts here has Asperger's.



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21 Feb 2015, 5:08 pm

pirrouline wrote:
What about discussing your ass penis?


:lmao:



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21 Feb 2015, 6:09 pm

i don't care what i'm called, as long as it's not 'tard', or 'handicapped'. because i'm absolutely not.

not that i would tell others anyway that i am an aspie...my teachers only know because it's on my IEP, i guess. :shrug:

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As I've always said, 'b' and 'p' sound totally different from each other to me. So 'ass-burger' doesn't sound like 'Asperger' at all. I have no idea why some people find it funny.


not in english obviously, nor in most European or other languages. some languages don't distinguish between voiced and unvoiced plosives (or, stops), where 'bit' and 'pit' would sound the same to their ears.

such languages on the other hand, sometimes use aspiration to distinguish phonemes, where aspirated and unaspirated phonemes would sound the same to our ears (don't change in meaning) ! so assburger and asperger would indeed sound the same to them, maybe... :chin:


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21 Feb 2015, 6:58 pm

...Yes :D ! !! !! !! !! !!



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22 Feb 2015, 2:37 am

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I definately like. It is cute and nice for me and I like to use it.

Wow, and those are the same reasons I absolutely hate the term.

First, let me say, I'm not attacking you with what I'm about to say, this is just my opinion.

Like you said, it's 'cute'. Well, the condition certainly isn't 'cute', it shouldn't be viewed or treated as 'cute', and doing so only downplays the very real issues behind it.

It's too childlike of a term, it's begging to not be taken seriously, and by extension, it calls for us as a group to also not be taken seriously. It doesn't help the fact that most of society views AS as a 'child only illness' (though the idea that it's not is definitely getting out, even though not in a good way), and those who don't really know one way or the other come here, to this site and see the hand drawn logo that looks like it was done by children (no offense to the artist), which gives them a colored perspective on the whole thing.
Everything about AS has been downplayed and made into this 'cute' thing and nothing about the term 'Aspie' reflects the actuality of the condition. Pretty soon (if not already), people's first reaction to hearing that an adult has AS will either be laughter, or an unnerved response where they say rather awkwardly "I gotta go, see you later" (because of the media's bullcrap relating AS with violent behavior).


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22 Feb 2015, 3:13 am

I'm yet to use it in a real life situation or talk to someone who uses it. :/



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22 Feb 2015, 5:02 am

I don't like it. It sounds like a name for a pet snake.


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22 Feb 2015, 2:46 pm

Could be that-the nickname of Cleopatra's snake.

But what comes to my mind is "a person from Aspen Colorado".

Nothing wrong with the latter. Fact it's kinda glamorous.