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willem
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20 Apr 2007, 11:35 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
(It's funny, I don't see how conversing via typing can be considered "socializing" or hard, and I like to think that I can get by adequately when talking to people through this written medium, and I’m a full on autistic individual.)


I think that is because in written conversations like these the focus is on what we're saying, and we're entirely comfortable with that. In spoken conversations, on the other hand (with NT's anyway), the focus tends to be on (their and our) persons, and we're not even remotely comfortable with that.


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21 Apr 2007, 3:11 am

willem wrote:
I think that is because in written conversations like these the focus is on what we're saying, and we're entirely comfortable with that. In spoken conversations, on the other hand (with NT's anyway), the focus tends to be on (their and our) persons, and we're not even remotely comfortable with that.


It’s something…I’ve tried to deduce why I’m mute, so uncomfortable so scared so withdrawn when I’m around people (“that which I don’t know”), but it’s elusive.

I’ve written some rather emotional stuff to people before, stuff that’d drop me even if I were thinking about it in the company of others; without waiver.

It’s definitely in the presence of a physical object that confounds me…mentally kills me, but…. I cannot find anything about the object that scares me other than it containing a presence I cannot read unless it tells me its thoughts (which may not be true). Perhaps that's why I have trouble.... I don't know anything about it, i.e., is it a threat?

I guess I'm just scared.



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21 Apr 2007, 3:47 am

Danielismyname wrote:
willem wrote:
I think that is because in written conversations like these the focus is on what we're saying, and we're entirely comfortable with that. In spoken conversations, on the other hand (with NT's anyway), the focus tends to be on (their and our) persons, and we're not even remotely comfortable with that.


It’s something…I’ve tried to deduce why I’m mute, so uncomfortable so scared so withdrawn when I’m around people (“that which I don’t know”), but it’s elusive.
I guess I'm just scared.

People have told me my brain works faster than my mouth.

I think I'm just scared of saying the wrong thing or messing up my words or my mind going blank under the pressure, too much social complexity, far easier to keep quiet.

Written stuff is much better, because you can take time over it, analyse it, change it, with speech you just have to blurt it out and I feel very awkward doing new things or being around poeple I don't know very well and I avoid eye contact for more than a short time otherwise it feels very uncomfortable.



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21 Apr 2007, 10:04 am

Fraya wrote:
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Can I have a question? I am new here.
Why is the name wrongplanet ? :-) What is wrong?
We are living on a wrong planet ?


Eh basically.. its in homage to the common perception among autistics that humans ("normal" ones at least) make no sense and are like aliens.. but since they are the majority we must be the aliens stuck on the wrong planet.

Hence the name.

The name "Wrong Planet" comes from the Gena P. Barnhill book : "Right Address, Wrong Planet",
and the Oliver Sacks book "Anthropologist on Mars" where he describes the life and experiences of
Temple Grandin. Temple is all but a saint to those of us on the ASD Spectrum.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... k_code=as1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Sacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Anthropologist_on_Mars
http://www.wrongplanet.net/article295.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5628476
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5488844
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5503688
http://www.npr.org/search.php?text=Temple+Grandin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin



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21 Apr 2007, 8:31 pm

Some interesting discussion on Aspergers v High Functioning Autism differences here... I'm not sure how valid the study might be: if I'd read this in isolation, I would be absolute 100% HFA according to this article - but this cannot be so; I don't recall having any delayed language development...

A Unique Mind - ASHA
Learning Style Differences in Asperger's Syndrome and High-Functioning Autism:
http://www.asha.org/about/publications/ ... 70123c.htm



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22 Apr 2007, 9:29 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
I've concluded [by viewing this forum] that autism and Asperger's are one and the same...one is just used to describe someone whom has a much harder time functioning in modern society, i.e., their symptoms are "worst" (not to say that those with Asperger's have it any "easier" in reality, far from it).

Most everyone here says things that are similar to how I think, the words are ordered differently obviously; but the meaning is still there....

It's social (collective society also) retardation; not intellectually.

(It's funny, I don't see how conversing via typing can be considered "socializing" or hard, and I like to think that I can get by adequately when talking to people through this written medium, and I’m a full on autistic individual.)

Maybe you should actually meet some people with Autism before making that conclusion... :roll:



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22 Apr 2007, 10:17 pm

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I'm not complaining or anything, but I think WP is too focused more on aspies than regular autistic people.


My dx is HFA, though ASpie wasn't a diagnosis when I got diagnosed. I actually think I am ASpie rather than HFA, since I was a fairly precocious talker.



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22 Apr 2007, 10:32 pm

Space wrote:
Maybe you should actually meet some people with Autism before making that conclusion... :roll:


They're hard to find, do you know where I can find one? I'm looking for a trophy to place over my computer.... Wait, I can just place my own head above my computer; that’s where my subjectivity resides anyway.

Don’t judge something that you don’t know, you know your brother; I don’t, I don’t even know myself…I’m as autistic as he, you or anyone. I'm sure your brother is better than me at many things....

It’s all subjective it’s all “I” it’s rarely “we”.



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22 Apr 2007, 10:46 pm

My brother had speech delay, but I didn't. He was put into an early childhood program at 4 because of his temper. One of the teachers there specialized in working with both intellectually gifted and Autistic children. She told our parents that he seemed to fit both categories, and that she would say the same about me if I didn't talk so much. I would think that my parents would have done something then about testing us, but what can you do... at that point Asperger's wasn't recognized in the U.S. anyway.