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14 Apr 2016, 3:55 am

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And how can you be an INTJ and be Aspie?

There's quite a high correlation. INTJ may be one of the most common aspie types.

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14 Apr 2016, 3:58 am

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This is exactly what I meant about the younger generations. It seems all of this "chivalry" changed with feminism.

This is certainly true. Your college algebra professor in 2016 would probably be slapped with a Title IX lawsuit.

What kind of lawsuit is that?

And how can you be an INTJ and be Aspie?

You might be surprised about how many INTJ and other INT type personalities are on this board. There was a thread not to long ago with the link to 16Personalities and people were posting what they got as a result; I must say I was surprised to see as many INT* type personalities as I did. Oh yeah, I also scored a INTJ-A both times I took the test. Almost for got the important part. :lol:

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14 Apr 2016, 4:00 am

Darmok wrote:

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And how can you be an INTJ and be Aspie?

There's quite a high correlation. INTJ may be one of the most common aspie types.

What about the "always trying to improve friendships and relationships"? Aren't you needing alone time?

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14 Apr 2016, 4:04 am

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nurseangela wrote:

Darmok wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

This is exactly what I meant about the younger generations. It seems all of this "chivalry" changed with feminism.

This is certainly true. Your college algebra professor in 2016 would probably be slapped with a Title IX lawsuit.

What kind of lawsuit is that?

And how can you be an INTJ and be Aspie?

So did I. I have some "ways" on both the INTJ and ISTJ personalities.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:21 am

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I get the impression that men with autism/on the spectrum are more 'chivalrous' towards women than the average man. Which I find a little confusing given that women can be mean and judgmental to men who show autistic traits.

Do you think there is some truth to this or not?

People with Autism are more likely to behave in a way that's different from that of their cultural environment.

If you live in a part of the world where chivalry no longer exists, then, yes, men with Autism are more likely to be chivalrous.

If you would live in a part of the world where chivalry is still common, the opposite would be true...

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They might think someone who's chivalrous has some kind of ulterior motive.

... and here's the reason why chivalry can be a turn-off for women, especially if you're socially clumsy (like most of us are).

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14 Apr 2016, 7:28 am

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so you reveal your inherent opinion that asperger people are more "normalized" than NT's.

heh...

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14 Apr 2016, 7:31 am

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I expect the person at the door first to hold it open for the next person and then that person takes over the role. So if I was on a date and she got there first I would expect her to hold the door if she didn't I would take that as she isn't interested. I'll have to try and do this tonight I'm out on a date lol.

How old are you, if I may ask?

I don't mind I am 38.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:32 am

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so you reveal your inherent opinion that asperger people are more "normalized" than NT's.

We live in a society where normal behavior is considered pathological and pathological behavior is considered normal.
To put it differently: the nutters are running the asylum.

This scene from Mr Robot expresses my thoughts on this quite well :

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14 Apr 2016, 7:44 am

My opinion on chivalry:

Save it for your date.

Men who attempt to treat ME like a helpless child are just irritating.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:51 am

nurseangela wrote:

Nachtkrieger822 wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

Darmok wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

This is exactly what I meant about the younger generations. It seems all of this "chivalry" changed with feminism.

This is certainly true. Your college algebra professor in 2016 would probably be slapped with a Title IX lawsuit.

What kind of lawsuit is that?

And how can you be an INTJ and be Aspie?

So did I. I have some "ways" on both the INTJ and ISTJ personalities.

I am the same I am INTJ / ISTJ . I am just 1 or 2 points towards the N that's it so more or less in the middle. everything else more or less maxed to that type.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:53 am

aspiesavant wrote:

b9 wrote:

so you reveal your inherent opinion that asperger people are more "normalized" than NT's.

We live in a society where normal behavior is considered pathological and pathological behavior is considered normal.

you have presented 2 identical sides to your argument and therefore nullified it.
but it is still an assertion
i can see that adherence to social norms is kind of pathological in that people are wired to desire to do it without really thinking about it.
but abnormal behavior (not congruent to social norms) invites the most attention from those that scrutinize you in the context of "need to investigate" in order to prevent a "catastrophic outcome".

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14 Apr 2016, 7:56 am

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My opinion on chivalry:

Save it for your date.

Men who attempt to treat ME like a helpless child are just irritating.

It's not treating someone as a helpless child it's just been polite. If a man or women is behind me when I open a door I will not close it on them that's just rude. But it depends on how far away they are. A date obviously I would just wait for them to catch up anyone else well depends if I am in a hurry but if your going to take more than 5 seconds to get to me I am letting go.

I suppose with this it depends on how you were brought up and I was brought up to treat people how I like been treated. I don't like a door slammed in my face so I don't do it to other people.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:57 am

Test. Test.

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14 Apr 2016, 7:59 am

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Test. Test.

that is the best answer

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14 Apr 2016, 7:59 am

Test.

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Holding doors open is pretty common in the American South, not too sure about the defending women, I would guess he's but I haven't really been in any situations like that

I don't know whether it is a Southern American thing, but this is also the case in the Netherlands. If someone is closely behind you, and you go through a door, you hold the door open for him/her, regardless which gender or how old the other person is: a man or a woman, a child or an adult. Also vice versa, sometimes a child (that I do not know) holds the door open for me. It is not just a man holding the door open for a woman. Paid check-in systems can overrule this etiquette.

Yes, I am described as (overly) polite, at least friendly. This friendliness can be flirtatious towards women, but never showing sexual interest. That won't happen. First I don't know how to be more sexual, secondly, I don't know what happens when there is sexual interest. Would that be seen as sexual harassment or clearly visible sexual interest. Absence of interest can be interpreted as nice-guyisch (negative) or respect for women (positive).

From the two options I choose for: not showing sexual interest and be chivalrous. Yes, it backfires me, but I don't know how to get out of it.

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14 Apr 2016, 8:00 am

b9 wrote:

hmk66 wrote:

Test. Test.

that is the best answer

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