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08 Jan 2008, 11:57 am

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Then I dare say the freakin spirits are controlling or possessing more then their fair share of the world cause there sure the hell is a lot of people walking around that can fit your little bill of goodys.



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And if you look at a later statement by me you will see I don't dismiss the unknowns either. It's just that this list looks like a big hunk of myth wishing. Believe what ya want, doesn't matter to me what ya think. I don't do humble opinions, I either have one or I don't, I didn't forget to add it. I could twist your head around in circles with some of what I've seen and if it didn't twist your head, it would send chills up and down your back you wouldn't forget for a week. That list is bull sh**. imo


Heck, I never called this the end all to all Knowledge, but certainly an eye/mind opener when it comes to the maladies that afflict us; the mental realm is above the physical realm and there are ALL SORTS of entities flying out and around up there that attach themselves to the unaware, ungrounded, unsuspecting and unprotected souls. Not to inform people of this, would not be the right thing to do. In fact there's a MORAL obligation to inform people of these occurances, so that they can guard and protect against psychic/spiritual invasions - and hopefully, in this way help them avoid pitfalls that later are so difficult to overcome.


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08 Jan 2008, 12:33 pm

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Then I dare say the freakin spirits are controlling or possessing more then their fair share of the world cause there sure the hell is a lot of people walking around that can fit your little bill of goodys.



Ah. You noticed.
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And if you look at a later statement by me you will see I don't dismiss the unknowns either. It's just that this list looks like a big hunk of myth wishing. Believe what ya want, doesn't matter to me what ya think. I don't do humble opinions, I either have one or I don't, I didn't forget to add it. I could twist your head around in circles with some of what I've seen and if it didn't twist your head, it would send chills up and down your back you wouldn't forget for a week. That list is bull sh**. imo


Heck, I never called this the end all to all Knowledge, but certainly an eye/mind opener when it comes to the maladies that afflict us; the mental realm is above the physical realm and there are ALL SORTS of entities flying out and around up there that attach themselves to the unaware, ungrounded, unsuspecting and unprotected souls. Not to inform people of this, would not be the right thing to do. In fact there's a MORAL obligation to inform people of these occurances, so that they can guard and protect against psychic/spiritual invasions - and hopefully, in this way help them avoid pitfalls that later are so difficult to overcome.


There is another consideration altogether. We tend to look at things in our understandings in the moment, based in things from the past.. Spirits don't make the tides do what they do, but we didn't know it back in the good ol days. Fear is a seller, always has been and most likely always will be. Labels can be dangerous. It's still needed to warn those of the tides, not good to have ones car on the beach with a high tide coming in. But a little chart in the paper will do just fine. Someone running up and down the beach yelling, the tide is coming, the tide is coming will end up in a place where there isn't any tide to worry about. The chart that has been referenced here can be easily put into other perspectives, way to many other things that hit the high points. I do wonder what the exorcism criteria book looks like and I think it is a book. Morals entering it is a bias, to call these unknowns anything other then unknowns is a bias. To need to guard one self from things that ain't done me any harm to begin with, sets up the fear response, a bias. Research it, fine, go for it, I never said I wasn't interested. I guess I wouldn't even be in this thread if I hadn't had a few mysterious things happen to begin with. IMO


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08 Jan 2008, 1:14 pm

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Indeed. OMG I can't believe anyone still believes we're stuck somewhere in a timewarp as far as measuring energy goes. Does quantum physics NOT ring a bell in there somewhere?


Good point. Quanta are literally packets of energy.



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08 Jan 2008, 1:47 pm

Allow me to take back a bit of what I said about twisting ones head in circles and sending chills up ones spine. They were actually quite the opposite, but then I'm aspie. I found it all to be very interesting and very calm, well I'll admit a little exciting, but in a good sense. I wonder how an an NT would have reacted to what happened with me. I've spun more then one pros head around with the very few times that I have repeated it. But then maybe they thought I was a pathological liar or some other label they seem to have an abundance of. Doesn't matter, I don't care.


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08 Jan 2008, 2:03 pm

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Indeed. OMG I can't believe anyone still believes we're stuck somewhere in a timewarp as far as measuring energy goes. Does quantum physics NOT ring a bell in there somewhere?


"SIGH" And what does chemistry messure. I got the message people. Once was enough, I don't need it twice, plus "OMG, I can't believe somebody". I lost count now of how many people act 'surprised' at me not thinking the same way. -.- Not.. very.. amusing..



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08 Jan 2008, 2:42 pm

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jjstar wrote:

Indeed. OMG I can't believe anyone still believes we're stuck somewhere in a timewarp as far as measuring energy goes. Does quantum physics NOT ring a bell in there somewhere?


"SIGH" And what does chemistry messure. I got the message people. Once was enough, I don't need it twice, plus "OMG, I can't believe somebody". I lost count now of how many people act 'surprised' at me not thinking the same way. -.- Not.. very.. amusing..


I'm a science major! I take it personally! :P

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08 Jan 2008, 2:43 pm

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Allow me to take back a bit of what I said about twisting ones head in circles and sending chills up ones spine. They were actually quite the opposite, but then I'm aspie. I found it all to be very interesting and very calm, well I'll admit a little exciting, but in a good sense. I wonder how an an NT would have reacted to what happened with me. I've spun more then one pros head around with the very few times that I have repeated it. But then maybe they thought I was a pathological liar or some other label they seem to have an abundance of. Doesn't matter, I don't care.


It's freaky. If I were you - after I calmed myself and got my bearings - would make some changes in my life - because I see things like that as real motivators to do some good - in a radical way - like helping the poor, feeding the homeless etc. etc. i.e. raising your vibration so that you're no longer effected by that event. Dunno - it just seems to be the next logical step in the sequence of events there.....eh? :?


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08 Jan 2008, 2:47 pm

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LiendaBalla wrote:
jjstar wrote:

Indeed. OMG I can't believe anyone still believes we're stuck somewhere in a timewarp as far as measuring energy goes. Does quantum physics NOT ring a bell in there somewhere?


"SIGH" And what does chemistry messure. I got the message people. Once was enough, I don't need it twice, plus "OMG, I can't believe somebody". I lost count now of how many people act 'surprised' at me not thinking the same way. -.- Not.. very.. amusing..


I'm a science major! I take it personally! :P

(just kidding)


I second that commotion. There's just so much disinformation out there - at least let's get the minutia on track :) But I am sorry if this hurt you. My apologies LiendaBalla.


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