Responsible Autistic gun owners

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Aspergers isn't a reason not to own a gun. It shouldn't even come into question. The mental state of the individual should. Having aspergers doesn't mean you are incompetent when it comes to gun safety. However, I don't really like guns much and cannot see a reason for anyone to have one in their home. If you go hunting, fair enough, but why not keep the gun in a secure hunting club? Why does it have to be in a private residence?

Hey, if it went the other way though and they ended up labeling us as a bunch of 2nd amendment-loving capitalist NRA republicans I could definitely live with that Booyakashock!

no, i wouldn't suggest calling the police- since they are the world's scariest gun-weilding maniacs. and no, they probably wouldn't care, or get there in time, because they are too preoccupied intimidating minority groups.

Just remember; GUN CONTROL means hitting the target....

seriously though, if one freedom is taken way whats next?
if a person is unstable and cant buy a gun they will just steal it if they want it bad enough.
In austraila (where I have family) the gun laws are strict and the average person can not get a gun. But criminals get them every day. ILLEGALLY. They steal them and sell them on the street.
Just remember when you take guns away from the people. only the bad people will ahve guns.

If they DO "blame" asperergers for this kids mental instability, then the media (As usual) doenst understand the syndrome and is looking for a scape goat. At the cost of those of us that would never hurt a fly. Well not on purpose any way.

it is like blaiming a persons gender or race or what ever for a viloent act. that would be as senseless as baliming aspergers syndrome if you ask me.

Negitive publisity is not what we need.

Forgot to mention, I also grew up around a responsible autistic gun owner, and given the prevalence of autism in my family and the amount of my family who are farmers and such, I know lots and lots of responsible autistic gun owners.

Couldnt the Los Angeles Times times ask before reading my posts?

Why is it that people have always carried weapons since man-kind first developed tools yet today, everytime you turn around, someones always killing somebody else. Yes, I'm fully aware there's always been violence and much of it such as domestic violence, stoning, gladiator fighting and corporal punishment of criminals was once even legal and acceptable. But now, it's as if people are losing their self control and don't care about consequences anymore.

I don't think the issue is about who has guns or the right to own one. It's a matter of who's responsible enough to use one wisely and not as an aid for commiting criminal acts or bullying others. Here in America, a household without a gun was once the exception as most people lived in rural areas and with law enforcement being far away or non-existant, people had to fend for themselves. Yet the murder rate wasn't as ridiculously high as it is now.

Part of the reason we have so many murders is the mind-set of so many people. It used to be shameful to be brought up on charges but now, a felon gets more respect than someone working in a low-paying job making an honest living. In other words, I think the prevelance of crime is from greed, immorality and disrespect for other's lives, not the guns themselves. The guns just happen to be the means as knives or fists would if they were illegal.

And yeah, I'm a "commie pinko" liberal but I bet most people here haven't had to live in Memphis, TN either. Believe me, with the high crime rate here, if you plan to step outside your door, you better have something on you or you may end up with your stuff.....or you, taken.

Lol, I like that

I suppose if the people of the USA want guns, then let them have guns - but they have to deal with the consequences.

Here in the UK, I have been brought up without guns, and have no wish or need for one, and long may it stay that way. The moment we start having guns legally in the UK, we will soon develop a gun culture like in the US, and I don't think people here want that.

From something like the 1700s until the 1920's, you had just as strong of a gn culture as the US. Up until 1903, you didn't need a license to carry a concealed pistol (just like modern day Texas), and before that, your country had the lowest crime rate in it's history. England could do just fine if they had a pro gun culture- they just need to realize it again.

Oh to be in that leafy upper-middle class suburb of yours, RobertN!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1822757,00.html
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/25/25176_man_dies_in_double_pub_shootings.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3125000.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3710682.stm
http://www.strathclyde.police.uk/index.asp?locID=430&docID=334

Guns are freely available here in the UK — to criminals. If the government can't do it's job, we should be able to do it for them.

I can't remember who it was who mentioned this, it might have been nirrti_rachelle, but criminals are usually a lot less inclined to try and rob someone when everyone and their mom's packing heat. Yeah, it can be unsafe in other ways, in particular those odd circumstances where an 8 year-old gets their hands on their parents weapon or something, but I'd think it would serve the greater good as long as people could be responsible with their ownership (whether that entailed keeping the bullets in a separate hidden place or whatever).

Here's a question I have for someone who's in Scotland though, eamonn or whoever: I've been hearing stories on the news about Glasgow and it's "booze and blades" culture. To be honest that scares me a lot more and I could see something just like that happening in the U.S. I don't know about most people here but I'd rather be at risk of being shot dead than see the predominant street weapons being knives, stilletos, machettes, katanas, or stuff like that - although both would suck I'd much rather be shot dead than get my throat slit and to be honest I think that knives becomming more dominant in gang and criminal culture would just make things 10x worse. At least now knives aren't as relevant when they can't do much against macks, techs, and glocks. Guns are the great equalizer and just like a scurvy 4' 10" methhead can command a guy twice the size of him from the other end of one you can also have a girl command would-be rapists, BTK-types, etc. or an old woman comming home with groceries fend of some teenage punks who felt like innitiating themselves by putting her in the hospital. So is Glasgow really bad in terms of slash & stab action or are illegal guns still a lot more dominant?

Scarily, ascan is right about gun culture and availability being a growing problem in the UK, in more typical urban areas than Cambridge. Typical street robbers or gang of chav scumbags are more likely to be carrying a knife or other 'conventional weapon' than a gun, but there are a hell of a lot out there. I hate the idea of guns being more accessible though, as that would put them in the hands of more low level scumbags who aren't 'connected'. Crime rates here are higher than in most other Western countries, but you're less likely to end up dead here than in countries where criminals routinely carry guns. I don't want to be in a position where I need to own a gun to have a decent chance of warding off an assailant.

Watch it Ascan!! ! That was very close to a personal insult!

Yes, all the cases you give are true, but even in the worst inner-city areas in this country, there is still a fraction of the violence you get in some US city downtown areas. At least here, if someone is shot, there is a thorough investigation, and the person responsible is put away for a good long time.

However, in the Bronx of NY, shooting is a daily occurance between rival gangs because of the easy availability of weapons. The police tend to not notice, particularly if the victim is poor and black. The police are afraid of the gangs, which are often connected to an international mafia of some sort. The only reason why Freund's case is so public is because it happened in a rich, white area which is not used to gun warfare. If it happened in the Bronx, Freund and his victims could be dead, and we would be none the wiser.

Hey Rob, the nice thing about guns is you can ID bullets back to em to the shooter or at least the last legal owner (from which a theft trail could possibly be established) - try doing that with a knife.

The conviction rate for knife murders here is not far from 100% and far more likely to get the conviction due to forensic evidence that always happens when you stab someone though admittedly one of the reasons that gun crimes has a lower conviction rate is due to gun killings generally being done by gangsters/hitmen.