Would you take the cure if offered $1 million?

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Bu but...don't you know?! All NT's are genocidal arrogant liars who are to blame for everything wrong in the world!

Only Aspies ever do anything useful...anyone who did anything was Autistic I tell you! Einstein, Newton, Washington! *Diagnoses the dead*

Anyway, this thread's title wrongly assumes every aspie is opposed to being cured. I would want the cure alone to begin with, the million will just be !

I imagine that is why I have put together a diverse Aspie-quiz that catches the true breadth of the Autism spectrum? I must have been seriously lacking in imaginative ability when I introduced the Neanderthal theory of Autism as well? And this is really a theory that looks at the wood, and not the individual trees. To me it seems like all Autism research is only looking at trees (the disability-aspect).

Is it just me - or do a lot of AS'ers have this idea that the only thing NT's are capable of is sociability ?

In terms of capability, NT's are more rounded and 3-dimensional than Aspies.
It's not that they can't do science and technology, it's that they find other things more interesting and compelling.

It's like a lot of AS'ers are saying 'Hey, you might be able to do everything else - but can you do THIS <insert Aspie super-capability> ?' and the implicit subtext '... in which case, you must be shallow and meaningless'.

A distortion, IMNSHO.

I personally don't give a damn what NTs are more capable of, nor do I care if being an Aspie is, in blatant objective fact, an inferior way to be. AS is a giant chunk of who I am, and to change it would change who I am. I like me, and I have no interest in being smarter, faster, more likable, prettier, stronger, or even better in every way possible if it means I have to change who I am at such a basic level.

If I'm going to get better in any way, I want it to be because of who I am, not in spite of it.

You are who you are in spite of your AS, not because of it.

And that's a lot of give ups you've listed above, like they're something to be ashamed of.
You're welcome to your opinion of your AS, but I think you have a pretty biased view of what you regard as 'NT' traits.

Could you finally list the Aspie-traits that will have to go with the cure? Otherwise you will just continue to confuse people on what they are supposed to give up on.

It seems to be their main advantage, yes, along with organizational skills, which just are a part of sociability.



Seems like a meaningless metaphore...



Not really. There is no need to insert any Aspie super-capability. Hyperfocusing as a general trait will do. NTs have a steady activity-level best adapted for sociability, which is not exactly a super-capability in the context of solving complex non-social problems.

Wha-huh? I don't think you know what "organizational skills" mean. They are quite useful independent of interaction with, or even the existence of other people.

The silliness of the OP, and yet the substance of the real question is "what is the cure?" Which is why I didn't answer it ... that and I assumed the OP was talking about ASC instead of my ADHD. I'm not even sure exactly what an ADHD "cure" would be either, although if it was the equivalent to me+Strattera I certainly would sign up and laugh all the way to the bank. Because me+Strattera is most definitely still me, just with the speed requirement for the carousel sated down several mph. I reckon Life and myself have made bigger changes in me, along different axis, over time than that.

Now what my life, and therefore myself, would be if the ADHD been recognized in my 'tweener years and if Stattera had existed then and if my mother would have agreed to the medication? Well that's a hell of a lot of "if"s.

I too get the sense that many people have got in their mind, and are answering based on a caricature of what [the range of] being "NT" is. I've seen some pretty twisted misunderstandings on this board.

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There is indeed a stark difference between G and his siblings (damned if I know how "normal" they are, well I know the older one isn't but in a different way ). I love them dearly but they are kinda boring in some ways. But there are some days, even for ADHD me, that boring feels pretty darn good too. I guess I'll take "both" and be happy with that?

Take the money and run for the cure topic

No NT in his/her right mind would pay any amount to cure me!!

I believe there is a lack of communication happening here.

First off, as a part of me, my AS is directly responsible for many of the personality traits that make up "me" therefore I am who I am due, in part, to AS. This is fact; not opinion. Pure, simple logic at its best. To argue with that statement is nothing short of folly.

Secondly, when I made the list of things that could be improved, I was simply giving examples of what could possibly be improved; not giving what 'becoming NT' would improve. Those are not 'NT traits' in my mind. I have not defined what I believe 'NT traits' to be by that post or any other.

Until now. I will, for the sake of amusement, now define what I believe 'NT traits' to be. NT traits are: Personality, behavioral, physical, or neural traits that would not lead to a diagnosis of an autism spectrum disorder.

Now, based on my definition of 'NT traits' it's clear that I have a very large number of them myself, just like everyone else who has ever lived. I also have autistic traits, just like everyone else who has ever lived. I just have enough autistic traits that it qualifies as a viable diagnosis of an autism spectrum disorder. A term that I have decided during this post that I dislike, since it implies that there's something wrong with it. Since I'm a firm believer that there is nothing 'wrong' with who I am, I will no longer refer to autism as a disorder. The autism spectrum will be 'neurodiversity' and I will stand proud as a neural deviant.

We each have our own areas of aptitude, and our own deficiencies, and we each have the opportunity to improve upon our deficiencies and utilize our aptitudes. There is no real difference between the neurotypical and the neurodiverse, it's just a broad categorization of ability. It's all labeling, and nothing more.

ah, but when you post you are leaving yourself open for any and all interpretations of your thoughts. This is the double edged sword of posting in the first place.

We try to keep these rules in mind when communicating with each other:




Please notice we have no rules for "Curebies" or for "Asperger's Syndrome or Autistic" we only have rules for members.

Merle

That's most reassuring.

yes if i can pay 1$ month

I would refuse the money, because if I accepted it I probably would end up wasting it all on my appearance or some other pointless thing that autistic people don't generally worry about.

Would you change your gender or race if offered 1 million dollars? It's the same as asking this question. I wouldn't want to suddenly become a different gender or race than I am and the same goes for suddenly becoming neurotypical.

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