Page 4 of 4 [ 53 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

glider18
Supporting Member
Supporting Member

User avatar

Joined: 8 Nov 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,170
Location: USA

14 Sep 2010, 7:13 am

Upon looking at the definition of meditation on the internet, I am not sure how deeply I have ever meditated. I think I get relatively deep in thought on special intense interests. But meditation is supposed to be a method to train the mind in order to realize a benefit. So I am thinking that my concentrating on roller coasters, etc. is more like intense daydreaming.

Now comes an interesting realization for me. I used to perform a ritual (meditation???) to try to relieve stress and anxiety. Though unorthodox by the world's standards, many of my fellow autistics may be able to relate to this---though I do not recommend it---and I do not make it a habit to practice this anymore---Self Harm/ Pain. I used to routinely do this self-pain thing that caused me to become relaxed as I went through concentrating on the pain (more often performed when I was young). After the ritual, I would find myself with less stress and anxiety. But again, I do not recommend self harm/ pain . I am just sharing my experiences. But I had the procedure set up where the device I used didn't need my manipulation to inflict the pain upon me. All I had to do was lay there and it did it. I did use my mind to realize a benefit during the ritual. So it appears that that might be meditation.


_________________
"My journey has just begun."


Moog
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,671
Location: Untied Kingdom

14 Sep 2010, 7:39 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:

I do that when I meditate as well (the air nostrils thing).

So much thought is unproductive. Think less, think better - I think :lol:

Some people have an antipathy to the idea of thinking less because they see themselves as intellectuals and think that all their ideas are like precious gold dust. I find meditation enables thought compression and organisation - not stupidity.



I believe the air nostrils thing is originally a Sufi meditation.

Ideas like gold dust......that sounds like me when I'm talking or thinking past the point......the almost irresistible urge to inform on an industrial scale, to pour out every scrap of my knowledge on the subject. And it's never worse than when I'm talking (or thinking) to myself.


Dunno about Sufi influence, but the same techniques are probably popular across many cultures. The Buddha taught anapanasati, which is mindfulness of breath, and involves observing breath in the nostrils, or near the nostril openings.


_________________
Not currently a moderator


puddingmouse
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Apr 2010
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,777
Location: Cottonopolis

14 Sep 2010, 9:08 am

ToughDiamond wrote:

I believe the air nostrils thing is originally a Sufi meditation.

Ideas like gold dust......that sounds like me when I'm talking or thinking past the point......the almost irresistible urge to inform on an industrial scale, to pour out every scrap of my knowledge on the subject. And it's never worse than when I'm talking (or thinking) to myself.


I'm guilty as charged of that as well!



ToughDiamond
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Age: 73
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,534

14 Sep 2010, 10:08 am

Moog wrote:
Dunno about Sufi influence, but the same techniques are probably popular across many cultures. The Buddha taught anapanasati, which is mindfulness of breath, and involves observing breath in the nostrils, or near the nostril openings.

Indeed......and it also owes more than a passing nod to pranayama, which is I suppose as Buddhist as you can get.



SnowWhite88
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 10 Dec 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 397
Location: Your perception.

14 Sep 2010, 10:47 am

I can meditate... mind you, it took me a heck of a lot of practice. I have a lot of trouble concentrating so it was a bit of a problem trying to get past that.