10 Things Americans don't realize are offensive to Brits

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02 Oct 2013, 4:10 am

I'm curious. What do they call black people in Britain and Australia? Here we call them African-Americans.



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02 Oct 2013, 4:12 am

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I'm curious. What do they call black people in Britain and Australia?


Black people. (If they belong to a particular black community, you might hear "Afro-Caribbean", "African", "Nigerian", "Somali" etc.)



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02 Oct 2013, 4:13 am

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I'm curious. What do they call black people in Britain and Australia? Here we call them African-Americans.


black.

Is there a definitive to who is or who isn't 'African-American' or is it culturally acceptable to describe any black person in America as this?

What about a white South African/Zimbabwean in America? are they African-American?

on the subject of black and white here in Britain, there is a fairly black and white answer :lol:

in terms of describing someone as 'Asian' here I guess it seems closer to your 'African-American' thing. You sometimes hear people these days described as 'British-Asian'



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02 Oct 2013, 4:22 am

Earlier, a poster here on WP referred to black people from the Caribbean as African-American. That's incorrect. The term's really reserved for those born in America or naturalized here. Someone from Africa would simply be called African if they're not a citizen of the US.



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02 Oct 2013, 5:54 am

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Con! steady on there auld boy!


Hm... what a lovely collection of broken glass bottles you have.

Probably time to flee. ;)

Well now you've done it! my parole officer's gong to know about my collection of whiskey bottles :wink:



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02 Oct 2013, 5:57 am

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Earlier, a poster here on WP referred to black people from the Caribbean as African-American. That's incorrect. The term's really reserved for those born in America or naturalized here. Someone from Africa would simply be called African if they're not a citizen of the US.

There was an interesting article I read from a African-American republican (a rare species) who claimed Obama had no right to call himself an African-American as his father was a foreigner and he (Obama) grew up in a mostly white household.



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02 Oct 2013, 7:09 am

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My concept of etiquette would probably be considered about equally as valid in China as it is in the US.


You'll run into problems no matter what you do, especially thinking like that.

Each culture has a different way of doing things.

Yes, but I'm not even that good at the ways my own local culture does things. It probably wouldn't be so bad for me, if I didn't have AvPD on top of AS. I just try to avoid social interaction a lot of the time because I know that I'm incapable of seeming polite in a lot of situations, due to my shyness and lack of social ability. I also really don't like to be called out on, so that's another reason for me to avoid social interaction. I don't know how I'm going to make it on my own, after I move out of my parents' house. I'm terrible at interacting with anyone I don't know well. I wish I could just hide behind my computer and entertain myself with my hobbies for the rest of my life. My only friend is indispensable for me. If I lost him, I'd probably never be able to make another.



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02 Oct 2013, 7:20 am

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We Brits find put-on congeniality, especially in stores, deeply irritating. It’s not that I want shop assistants to be actively rude. But neither do I want to expend energy responding to someone who’s been paid to ask, “How are you today?” in the style of an over-zealous children’s TV presenter when I’m busy trying to work out which knickers in Gap are the least likely to ride up my tush.


I agree with this one. Over-politeness gets on my nerves. I'm not expecting everyone to be rude, but over-politeness can sometimes make me feel patronized.


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02 Oct 2013, 8:44 am

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Sticking two fingers up at someone
Handily, pointing an about-turned, erect middle digit up at an adversary means the same in both lands. But what Americans often don’t realize is that standing their index finger up next to it (a reverse peace sign) is just as insulting in the U.K. Which is to say, not very, by we still might punch you if we’re drunk.


Having seen this in British comedy, Americans do it with palm facing forward. Brits do it with the back of the hand facing forward. They should know not to assume they are the same thing.



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02 Oct 2013, 8:59 am

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Sticking two fingers up at someone
Handily, pointing an about-turned, erect middle digit up at an adversary means the same in both lands. But what Americans often don’t realize is that standing their index finger up next to it (a reverse peace sign) is just as insulting in the U.K. Which is to say, not very, by we still might punch you if we’re drunk.


Having seen this in British comedy, Americans do it with palm facing forward. Brits do it with the back of the hand facing forward. They should know not to assume they are the same thing.


palm facing forward in America with 2 fingers up is the same insult as the back of the hand facing forward with 2 fingers up in the UK??



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02 Oct 2013, 9:13 am

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palm facing forward in America with 2 fingers up is the same insult as the back of the hand facing forward with 2 fingers up in the UK??


The V-sign is restricted to the UK and Ireland. It's increasingly archaic in Australia and New Zealand so I'm told, and would probably be considered rather endearing in the U.S. considering its nature as a very British insult.

The V-sign is often used to mock people light-heartedly though.



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02 Oct 2013, 10:34 am

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Over-politeness
We Brits find put-on congeniality, especially in stores, deeply irritating. It’s not that I want shop assistants to be actively rude. But neither do I want to expend energy responding to someone who’s been paid to ask, “How are you today?” in the style of an over-zealous children’s TV presenter when I’m busy trying to work out which knickers in Gap are the least likely to ride up my tush.


I agree with this one. Over-politeness gets on my nerves. I'm not expecting everyone to be rude, but over-politeness can sometimes make me feel patronized.


Even as an American this gets on my nerves because I am an Aspie


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02 Oct 2013, 2:53 pm

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but what is a chipper?


It may just be my idiolect, but a 'chipper' is what I call a deep fryer.


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02 Oct 2013, 3:22 pm

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"Brit" is generally fine.

If you want to impress a native while in Albion, brush up on your geography and general knowledge of Britain. I think we're easily impressed by U.S. Americans especially who make the effort. But of course, one notable error like thinking Cornwall's a city will mean you're back to square one. Perhaps learn a dozen or more cities in the British Isles if you don't know that many already, and similarly with our counties.

Another source of respect would be correct pronunciation and stressing of place names and I'll throw down some examples because it's 2am and this is what I do:

Birmingham = Burr-ming-UM (not Burr-ming-HAM/-HAYUM)
This same rule applies for most "-ham" towns. Durham = DUH-rum.

Scarborough = SCAR-bur-UH (not Scar-BRO)
This same rule applies for most "-borough" towns, including cases like Middlesbrough and Edinburgh.

Cheshire = CHESH-uh (not Che-SHY-uh)
This same rule applies for most "-shires" despite "Shire" being pronounced "SHY-uh", although examples like CHESH-eer, SHROP-sheer and WUSS-ter-sheer are also used.

Leicester = LESS-ter
This same rule applies for examples like Worcester (WUSS-ter) and Gloucester (GLOSS-ter).

Plymouth = PLIH-muth
This same rule applies for examples like Portsmouth (PORTS-muth) and Cockermouth (Cock-UH-muth).

Then there are other strange variables, eg. Southwark = SUTH-uk, Keswick = KEZ-ick, Norwich = NOH-rich, Salisbury = SOLS-bury.


I've forgotten what I was attempting to achieve with this or why, but that should make anyone well-prepared and leave us natives appreciative. :wink:


Middlesbrough is Bruh NOT buruh. That is how to offend a teessider.



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02 Oct 2013, 3:43 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
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Sticking two fingers up at someone
Handily, pointing an about-turned, erect middle digit up at an adversary means the same in both lands. But what Americans often don’t realize is that standing their index finger up next to it (a reverse peace sign) is just as insulting in the U.K. Which is to say, not very, by we still might punch you if we’re drunk.


Having seen this in British comedy, Americans do it with palm facing forward. Brits do it with the back of the hand facing forward. They should know not to assume they are the same thing.


Palm forwards with first two fingers up is peace in the UK. In the UK first two fingers up with the back of the hand showing is equivelent to giving some one the finger in the US.



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02 Oct 2013, 4:50 pm

i throw the peace sign a lot, so that's good to know.


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