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03 Feb 2015, 1:38 am

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That most people want you to live in it, even though you're entirely incompatible with it.


To be fair, it's kind of impossible to avoid living in the "NT world" for the most part, unless you're a completely self-sufficient survivalist out in Nunavut or Alaska or something. I definitely don't live an "NT" lifestyle though; I stay home most of the time, leave the house only to run errands, and spend most of my free time on the internet. Since I've been deemed unemployable, I've been pursuing an education instead of a career, which actually makes sense since I dropped out of high school a few years ago, and I really need to get my diploma to get anywhere.



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03 Feb 2015, 2:39 am

You know, not every negative trait a person can exhibit is unique to neurotypicals....according to this thread though one would almost think otherwise.


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03 Feb 2015, 3:12 am

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You know, not every negative trait a person can exhibit is unique to neurotypicals....according to this thread though one would almost think otherwise.


I find this kind of comment unhelpful. I'm sorry, I know it's your opinion and I don't want to shut you down. But I don't think anyone is making this claim -- that "every negative trait a person can exhibit is unique to neurotypicals" and that this is making a strawman argument out of people trying to explain a confusing world that they find alienating.


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03 Feb 2015, 3:51 am

Knowing someone should be avoided by getting an iffy vibe from them.
Strangers remembering me.



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03 Feb 2015, 5:12 am

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Strangers remembering me.


I work in a large hospital and this happens to me at least once a week. Do you act like you remember the person? Frantically trying to place the person whilst wearing a puzzled expression is about the best that I can do. It's not like I even have a vague idea who they are. But it must make the other person feel pretty unimportant.



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03 Feb 2015, 10:28 pm

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How they like to judge from a distance without even knowing a person or having met them.


God yes. I recall one incident at work when I was in the cafeteria sitting with others (all NT's) and they were gossiping about someone (something else I don't understand the necessity for), and how one of them actually said, based entirely upon the unsubstantiated chit-chat that was then taking place, 'Oh, well then in that case I hate her too, even though I've never met her'.

What the...? 8O



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03 Feb 2015, 10:36 pm

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Knowing someone should be avoided by getting an iffy vibe from them.
Strangers remembering me.


Yes, I can relate to this too. Complete strangers - people I have absolutely no memory of - approaching me and asking how 'I've been lately'. Strange stares in shopping complexes coming from strange people, as though they know me or something (from somewhere). Weird people taking my picture. One even recently asked me, 'Are you an actor? I've seen you before'. (No, I'm not, I had never met this person before, and I do not look like anyone famous, dead or alive).

What's going on here? There are times when I really DO believe these people are aliens, or that the inhabitants of this planet have had their souls snatched away from them, like in the late-70's film 'Invasion of the Body-Snatchers'. They are just so weird.



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03 Feb 2015, 10:44 pm

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-Flirting, 'sense of fashion', trends, gossips.


Yes, what exactly IS 'flirting' anyway? Apparently it goes on all the time, but I don't believe I've actually ever seen it. How is it different from just being friendly (which I have seen)?



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03 Feb 2015, 10:49 pm

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- going to a disco when they want to met someone. The music makes it hard to talk...


I've actually been to quite a few places where loud music was playing in the background, and I couldn't understand anything that anyone tried to tell me whilst I was there. I was always going, 'What?! Say that again! WHAT?! I can't hear you!'
I really don't know how they do that.



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04 Feb 2015, 12:31 am

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- going to a disco when they want to met someone. The music makes it hard to talk...


I've actually been to quite a few places where loud music was playing in the background, and I couldn't understand anything that anyone tried to tell me whilst I was there. I was always going, 'What?! Say that again! WHAT?! I can't hear you!'
I really don't know how they do that.


Same. Honestly, how the f**k do people talk in bars or clubs where they have loud, blaring music? Do they just text? If so, it seems kinda pointless.



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04 Feb 2015, 12:48 am

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Sweetleaf wrote:
You know, not every negative trait a person can exhibit is unique to neurotypicals....according to this thread though one would almost think otherwise.


I find this kind of comment unhelpful. I'm sorry, I know it's your opinion and I don't want to shut you down. But I don't think anyone is making this claim -- that "every negative trait a person can exhibit is unique to neurotypicals" and that this is making a strawman argument out of people trying to explain a confusing world that they find alienating.


Well of course it's not 'helpful' but it is a fact...and it just seems like a lot of things people here are describing as 'neurotypical' traits are also exhibited by people who are neurodiverse, so not sure how they are neurotypical traits.


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04 Feb 2015, 12:50 am

How "being nice" is not the same as "lying."

How "little white lies" are not the same as "lying."

How "being polite" is not the same as "lying."


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04 Feb 2015, 2:01 am

Lintar wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
How they like to judge from a distance without even knowing a person or having met them.

God yes. I recall one incident at work when I was in the cafeteria sitting with others (all NT's) and they were gossiping about someone (something else I don't understand the necessity for), and how one of them actually said, based entirely upon the unsubstantiated chit-chat that was then taking place, 'Oh, well then in that case I hate her too, even though I've never met her'.
What the...? 8O



It's a bit long, but I think if you read through this entry then you will get a better understanding of the mechanism behind what you observe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin



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04 Feb 2015, 4:26 am

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Well of course it's not 'helpful' but it is a fact...and it just seems like a lot of things people here are describing as 'neurotypical' traits are also exhibited by people who are neurodiverse, so not sure how they are neurotypical traits.


I say not helpful because we are trying to come to terms with a big ball of confusing stuff -- the world we live in but don't understand -- and are trying to see what people also experience and if they have anything that can help us understand it. It would helpful to know what you see as not "The NT World" but as something people with AS also do. Instead, I feel shut down by your comment. Most of us here have PTSD for misunderstanding the world and being judged because of that, so we're likely to be sensitive to comments that reinforce this opinion.

Anyway, not to jump on you. I mean, it's not a big deal either way. I just wanted to explain what I meant by "not helpful." (And I perservate. Sorry!)


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04 Feb 2015, 6:40 am

I just don't know when I am acting weird or not. Some NT's think I'm funny and enjoy my unconventional sense of humor. Others think I'm just plain weird and might suddenly snap and do something really outrageous at any moment. I just don't know what it is that I'm doing differently around the NT's who find me entertaining versus those who find me annoying and weird.


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04 Feb 2015, 2:36 pm

dryope wrote:
olympiadis wrote:
Well of course it's not 'helpful' but it is a fact...and it just seems like a lot of things people here are describing as 'neurotypical' traits are also exhibited by people who are neurodiverse, so not sure how they are neurotypical traits.


I say not helpful because we are trying to come to terms with a big ball of confusing stuff -- the world we live in but don't understand -- and are trying to see what people also experience and if they have anything that can help us understand it. It would helpful to know what you see as not "The NT World" but as something people with AS also do. Instead, I feel shut down by your comment. Most of us here have PTSD for misunderstanding the world and being judged because of that, so we're likely to be sensitive to comments that reinforce this opinion.

Anyway, not to jump on you. I mean, it's not a big deal either way. I just wanted to explain what I meant by "not helpful." (And I perservate. Sorry!)



Wait, I didn't post that. Something is not right here.



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