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22 Feb 2016, 7:21 pm

Must be a generational thing. I dont run across people saying to others, or even about others, "...must be autistic".

One guy I used to work with..... folks would talk about him as being "special" and maybe having "adhd, or sumpin' like that". And I learned after he left the company that he was in fact an aspie. That was a few years ago. I guess even a few years ago there was less "autism awareness" than now. But there was some ADHD awareness back then.



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22 Feb 2016, 7:23 pm

In the 1980s, people used to think I was on speed!



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22 Feb 2016, 7:52 pm

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You obviously ARE autistic.

you're telling us that folks with expertise (like teachers in special needs classes) correctly recognize as you as being autistic.

This autism awareness you complain is causing the lay public to be more accurate rather than being more inaccurate in recognizing autism.

So things are getting better.


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So why exactly is the fact that things are getting better bad?

This might surprise you, but most people don't like being thought of as autistic. When even non-autistic people are being asked if they're autistic, yes, that's bad. Personally, I prefer it if nobody knows about my diagnosis unless it's their business to know. Even the so-called "professionals" make me want to slap them sometimes, so the less people know, the better.


Well...maybe I get it. Or maybe I dont.

I am of the older generation who grew up when "autistic" was only applied a microscopically small population of severely impaired folks whom most folks never even encountered in real life.

So there was no "autism awareness" like today.

And in my day if you really were anywhere on (what is today called)"the Autism spectrum" ( a much larger and commonly encountered group than the old autism category) you were destined for a life being "labeled" as a sick wierdo ret*d.

So telling me "nobody likes being thought of 'autistic' " seems extremely naive. If you really are autistic then you are destined for bad labels anyway. So what the hell difference does it make?

So thats where I am coming from.

But on the other hand: yes I do kinda see what all of young folks are saying. In my day folks had to go to school, or work alongside you, for a LONG time to form an opinion about any wierdness in your behavior. But you all are saying that today they instantly type you as being "autistic" (rightly or wrongly).

So they become immediately prejudiced against you (kinda like with skin color back in the day). In the old days you had a fighting chance to suppress your wierdness to win friends and influence people. But if your peers are instantly prejudiced against you from the get go then you dont have that room to maneuver that an ASD person with some level of social skills would have in the old days.

So that indeed might be worse.

I will have chew on this some more.



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22 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm

In my world, nobody talks about anybody being "autistic."

They might call somebody "a little hyper," or "a little weird," or "just like Rain Man," or "sort of like "Sheldon."



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22 Feb 2016, 8:34 pm

I'm happy to be aware of my autism, but i wouldn't say openly i have autism.



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22 Feb 2016, 8:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
In my world, nobody talks about anybody being "autistic."

They might call somebody "a little hyper," or "a little weird," or "just like Rain Man," or "sort of like "Sheldon."


I find those names pejoratives.

I find "Autistic" more respectful and implying a much more objective reality.



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22 Feb 2016, 9:01 pm

I'm getting tired of trying to pretend to be normal. I feel like I'm about ready to just go around announcing it to everyone so that I can be done with the act already. It's too exhausting, and I'm bad at it.

I know it's a bad idea, so I'm not going to do it. But it's what I feel like doing.



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22 Feb 2016, 9:03 pm

Just be you. "Normal" is really in the eyes of the beholder a lot of the time.

As long as you don't outwardly offend anybody, call somebody names, or smell up a subway car, you're okay in my book!



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23 Feb 2016, 2:08 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
In the 1980s, people used to think I was on speed!


I always got asked if Inwas on drugs.


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23 Feb 2016, 6:51 am

Obviously, what I stated about people calling other people "weird," "hyper," etc was insulting!



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23 Feb 2016, 6:58 am

I think autism awareness is alright. But I am one of those people who does not like telling many people that they are autistic. I guess its because I'm really nervous, but autism awareness is a good thing in my opinion :)



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23 Feb 2016, 7:46 am

No, I wouldn't tell somebody that he/she is definitely autistic. If we were in one of those "confessional" sorts of conversations, I might talk about my autistic traits. Maybe the person would then say: "I have those very same traits," or something like that. T

That's a good way of making someone aware that they might be autistic (though the only way to conclusively prove that is to get diagnosed by a psychologist/psychiatrist).



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23 Feb 2016, 8:57 am

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I feel that the media is at least partly to blame, they depict Autism with a set number of parameters, and thus when people IRal meet someone with those parameters, they instantly think: "oh, that's an Autistic!" Even if said parameters are either incorrect or too narrow. E.G. Being Austistic = obsessing over something.


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23 Feb 2016, 9:44 am

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I'm getting tired of trying to pretend to be normal. I feel like I'm about ready to just go around announcing it to everyone so that I can be done with the act already. It's too exhausting, and I'm bad at it.

I know it's a bad idea, so I'm not going to do it. But it's what I feel like doing.


Why do you think that it is a bad idea?



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23 Feb 2016, 9:47 am

I have seen some good films showing an objective picture of autism. I find it good that people learn what is autism.



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23 Feb 2016, 10:53 am

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That's a possibility. Or maybe there is just more awareness of high-functioning ASD in adults there.

I guess I'm glad it's not so well-known around here. It would get annoying with all the people deciding that someone they know has it, based on something meaningless, or if they started referring to anything that is a supposedly autistic trait as autistic. Just like what happened with OCD. People go around saying "I'm so OCD" just because they have a weird habit or two.

In my area I keep seeing people diagnosed with autism who don't seem autistic. That either means it's getting overdiagnosed or there's more awareness of subtle traits. I think they tend to use autism as an umbrella term for all people who are neurodiverse. It really drives me crazy because seeming smart or anxious now gets read as autistic. Why can't I just get seen as anxious or smart?


My husband thinks he's coming across as anxious and smart.

His body language screams otherwise.

I'm guessing that is what is happening to you.