shamanic powers

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Merle

we might get to Dodd's Corrollory by thread page 5.....

QFT

and psychopathology comes from the cultural analogy of them in our culture. The psychologists/psychiatrists are the 'shamans' of our culture and will allow no competition.

Merle

you grrls are so sharp

you are a cluey one, sinsboldly.

chuckle chuckle.......

My name is William SHatner and I'm a shaman!

Lucky you,

Misguided "Auntie" tried to tell my family I had Gran Mal Epilepsy - as I have a close friend with exactly that,
I was able to defend myself.

I just call it "daydreaming" -they don't get so scared.

surely first we must meet jedi master yuoda.. ...anyway most aspies love to daydream there has nothing shamanic to me in that we just like to think our own stuff,actually i tented to daydream mostly at 9grate during math lesson and would not wake up until teacher snapped me awake

until adulthood i daydreamed all the time, it scared my classmates as they thought I was staring at them, but now I don't do that zo often anymore, can you outgrow it?

perhaps she meant petit mal?
( "A petit mal seizure is the term commonly given to a staring spell, most commonly called an "absence seizure." It is a brief (usually less than 15 seconds) disturbance of brain function due to abnormal electrical activity in the brain.)


Merle

Then that explains why, when confronted with a person who hear voices telling him what to say and do, who speaks in nonsensical syllables, and who believes himself to be more 'divinely' inspired and/or more 'spiritually' advanced than normal individuals, ignorant, superstitious peoples will call him a 'Shaman', and educated, knowledgeable peoples will call him 'Paranoid - Schizophrenic'.

Some ignorant cultures also used to consider epilepsy to be a 'sign of the gods' while modern science knows epilepsy to be a sign of a damaged brain.

So belief in improvable and intangible things is more a sign of not knowing what's really going on - or not wanting or caring to know ("Don't tell me the facts after I've already made up my mind; the gods have spoken!") - than it is with reality. No wonder primitive peoples get "steam-rollered" and exploited by more advanced cultures - the primitives rely on Shamanic principles, while the advanced cultures rely on reality.

The amazing feats of calculation performed by autistic savants can be repeatedly validated. Not understanding how they do it is hardly grounds to invalidate the fact of a successful performance. Such genetically evolved skills have probably been around for some time. Maybe tens of thousands of years. Could you prove otherwise? And what if the savants also have epileptic seizures? Would you say those seizures nullify their savant talents and capabilities?

What is the percentage of our brains we don't use? Around 90%? Having a closed mind is hardly a mark of intelligence and only fools would view it as such. Preferring to be limited because it doesn't fit into your logic boxes isn't useful to a rapidly evolving technological society. Logic is not a god to be worshipped. It is a tool to assist us with evolution, survival and technological progress. And logic isn't the only tool in the toolbox. Why would you limit yourself to only the use of a hammer when you also have a screwdriver, pliers, socket wrench etc? Why be so stubbornly against the idea of extra-sensory perceptions? Remote viewers have been used by the military. Psychics by the police. Both for decades. What more proof do you need that even if such talents are denied to exist...doesn't matter... because they're in demand and those talents are being put to good use.

Really? If you compare the most advanced and highest savants' performance with the simple calculation the brain must do to recognize a chair, to calculate the way to the chair and coordinate the muscles to sit down they are not that impressive. The savants are "only" in the position to use this amazing powers of the brain for maths.

It does not make a lot of sense evolutionary to develop a big brain, which costs the body enormous amount of energy and makes the reproduction of our species more difficult (almost any mammal can give much easier birth than human) and not to use this capacity. Even: When the brain mass gets less (e.g. during ageing) there are significant effects - dementia.



It is only tool we can really use - the consequent rule of a rigid logic brought within the last 400 years more progress than we had in the 100'000 years before - and the speed of progress is still accelerating.



Plain logic: Either it is perception, than it must be sensual or it not a perception, than it can't be sensual.

i thought naming indigenous peoples 'primitive' belonged to the 19th century past, but they persist, you are the proof of it.
The west thought the more techonology we haveAmazon teh more evolved and superior to primitive peoples, and yet we have to conclude we lonelier than ever.
There are people who went all the way to the amzaon and got cure of cancer or a tumor with Ayahuasca and a shaman. yet we cll those people primitive, those peoples who have lived in perfect harmony for thousands of years in the jungle we where we sophisticated people have finished off 90 % of all rainforests in barely 100 years with our advanced techonology, we produce nuclear energy and bury at the bottom of the ocean or send it into space, cause we are primitive enough still to accept that we don't know what we should do with radioactive waste.

I've had visions that came to be true, I've had...oh never mind, I am preaching things that can all fall on deaf ears.
It is quite racist and biased and polliticall incorrect to call those peoples ignorant, every year dozens of living libraries of knowledge on plants and sacred plants die with the shaman.

Biopiracy is very common now both with misisonairies who now record shamans testimonies and knowledge, if that is not a recognition of what science cannot fathom.

Oh yes? Where are the libraries of those primitives? How they organize their banking system? Trade? How they manage to transport items all over the world?



Therefore you see so many old people in this tribes ...



Without technology to rule the nature nature will rule - if you call this "harmony"; I call this a horrible struggle for survival and I am more than happy that the western civilisation passed this phase.