Are there any true geniuses here? (IQ over 155)

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16 Mar 2009, 8:22 am

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Verbal? Yes
Performance? Hell no


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16 Mar 2009, 9:08 am

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Has it occured to you that true geniuses may not have any interest in world affairs or govenrments or suffering people or ecological disasters?


The suffering of one's fellow man is either beyond comprehension or is trivial.

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16 Mar 2009, 9:10 am

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Think of the weapons out there and if the G 20 ever decided to use them on us, which I don't know why they would, but it's scary.
What if suddenly they decided the earth would be better off without us and they want there to be less people. I hope this is just paranoia but you have to wonder...why do we really need so many weapons of mass destruction? It's probably the biggest threat to us as a species and we don't even realize it.


Not a problem. We have Nukes and poison gas AND the means to deliver them in large quantities. There is nothing wrong with the world that a little applied genocide could not cure.

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16 Mar 2009, 9:30 am

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Not a problem. We have Nukes and poison gas AND the means to deliver them in large quantities. There is nothing wrong with the world that a little applied genocide could not cure.

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What a delightful thing to post on a forum with so many young people reading. Gee, what a bright future that would be. Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement. It is appreciated!

btw I'm being incredibly saracastic.



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16 Mar 2009, 9:40 am

That's not a bad thing to say in front of children. Our government used to make us crawl under our desks once a week or so to prepare for the big bomb to drop and vaporize everything in sight so many of us have grown up with this vivid image in our minds. In between bomb drills we'd get shown films of poor Japenese kids with their flesh flaiing off their arms and the desolation of cities flattened to the ground and then pictures of happy smiling men carrying gieger counters wearing the bright yellow CD helments. It was just a normal part of post world war life in America and a few other countries.


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16 Mar 2009, 9:46 am

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That's not a bad thing to say in front of children.

Garyww, be honest. It's a terrible thing to say. There is NO way anyone who isn't a sociopath can say that way of thinking is decent. That's sociopathic thinking, hate to tell you, but that's what sociopaths believe.
People talk about sociopaths a lot on WP, well, what do you call that value system? If that is not sociopathic, what is????



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16 Mar 2009, 10:47 am

As I said. This type of exposure to atomic war was a normal part of growing up for many of us and the programs were designed by our govenrment and our educational system. I haven't seen any educators call the programs abnormal or socialopathic.


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16 Mar 2009, 10:56 am

Here's a couple links to some of the milder types of movies we were shown in grade school. Mass destruction on a global scale was no big deal to post war children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RHj15wVXec&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V47Qs9Eyus


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16 Mar 2009, 10:57 am

Garyww, I am not going to muddle things like so many do on the internetz, but it's a fact...sociopaths do not care what happens. They are selfish, only care about themselves. They don't like their own lives much, are self loathing, so they say, "I'm fine with genocide, wars, tear gas, murders" It's sociopathic. It's plain to see to anyone who isn't a sociopath.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:03 am

Its ok. I learned about ti in school. Well with wars and genocide and stuff.


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16 Mar 2009, 11:03 am

I didn't mean to give you the impression that I agree with the government of school system. I do think both institutions are very sick and routinely mistreat the general public I just meant to show you that we were trained to accept these horrors as being a normal part of daily living.


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16 Mar 2009, 11:05 am

Modality wrote:
I don't think IQ is the correct way to measure genius. One is known as a genius for producing works of genius, not by a score on some test.


Correct. Genius is determined by the value of your contributions, not by your IQ. Richard Feynman's IQ was officially 125, but I don't think anyone in physics would deny his genius.

There are plenty of people with high IQs who are little more than memorization machines, or who spend their lives concentrating on tiny niche subjects that nobody else is interested in and that have no particular value.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:17 am

Since the most used IQ test around here (and elsewhere?) is the Wechsler's that has a ceiling score of 145, there won't be any geniuses of 155+ tested with that prominent IQ test.

0% geniuses.

I also think it's absolutely pointless to ask as if IQ scores beyond 130 meant anything.

Samples of pretty much all modern IQ tests for those with a higher score than 130 are too small to validate IQ scores of above 130.


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16 Mar 2009, 11:23 am

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Do you find yourself adrift in a sea of idiots to the point where you want to pull your hair out, because they JUST DON'T GET IT after having the obvious explained to them a million times?


A true genius would know how to explain the obvious to an idiot so that the idiot would get it.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:25 am

It was horrific to see the photographs of people who had been electrocuted when trying to cross train tracks, i saw that at school. Im scared of train tracks i stay well away from them.
Ignorance is a bad thing i try explain in detail anything my son asks about that way he can make good choices in the future or help other peoples.
He knows about global warming it frightening but he has a scientific mind, hes already making inventions and ideas.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:27 am

I entirely agree with those who have said that IQ tests are a good way of measuring the ability of people who are good at IQ tests.

I joined Mensa about 30 years ago, at the time when I was going through the rigmarole of finding "out of school activities" to put on university application forms when I didn't actually do anything aside from schoolwork and researching what were then my special interests. I got a really great score, in the top few percent of Mensa members, but I've singularly failed to go on and change the world. I've also only ever managed to go to two Mensa meetings...