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Adamantium
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05 Apr 2014, 6:09 am

No one noticed any difference

He was highly popular

He was not autistic



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05 Apr 2014, 10:11 pm

No. Autistics cant exude that amount of charm in a pink fit.



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06 Apr 2014, 11:55 am

So, this forum doesn't have any rules against resurrecting 4 year old threads....



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06 Apr 2014, 12:43 pm

InTheDeepEnd wrote:
So, this forum doesn't have any rules against resurrecting 4 year old threads....

Should it? Just because a topic was made several years ago does not mean it still not interesting. Sometimes people stop communicating for mayh different reasons...I have only been on here a bit over a year, but I intend to go back to many of the threads I participated on. There should maybe be a rule, though, against people starting too many new threads, but I would have to think that over.

The reason I came to write on this thread and saw your message is to say that I have no idea if Ten Bundy was autistic or not, but I did recently watch an hour long special on the unibomber (because it was very late at night and there was nothing else to watch) where it was mentioned several times that he may have been autistic. I don't know if this thread is where I want to discuss it, but an autistic person's who has what I will call "the bitters" for various reasons, and perhaps even good reasons, can possibly lock into and develop a special interest around these bitters, not to imply that most autistic people do this. I realized this just now when I was thinking about an autistic woman I know from my job whose literal specialty is breaking certain laws around public vending of various products and then taking people to court and even stalking people who are trying to hold her accountable. This is literally her specialty aside from breaking certain kinds of laws around public vending because she feels she should be exempt from these laws and her whole life revolves around it. From this perspective, in an odd instance, an autistic person could technically develop a special interest of being charming in order to get back at people. Not trying to say this applies here, but it offers a different perspective.

And I do not know if labeling various people as autistic is even such a good idea and it does cast aspersion on autistic people in general and create a cartoon view in the mind of the public, but in terms of understanding how autism might work, it could be very valuable to a person studying himself and even ultimately this kind of greater understanding autism could lead to a beneficial shift in public perception..

Imo the public perception about autism is greatly warped and incidents such as with Adam Lanza have created a damaging cartoon picture and definitely are making an imprint upon public perception of autism, and I do not see that decreasing at all, which is too bad, and I can see why people would want to fight it, and yes, education is the best tool, but in this regard, suppression of idea content around enquiry is not a good idea at all and will only backfire and tend to further cement in the mind of the public this wrong image.

And I know this thread is on google, but almost no one will see it, as almost no one would even be researching thistopic except a very few people. And what if they were?



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06 Apr 2014, 1:09 pm

InTheDeepEnd wrote:
So, this forum doesn't have any rules against resurrecting 4 year old threads....


I think it does actually. Somebody explained to me why once, but I can't remember.

Opal, what's a pink fit? I never heard that one before.



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06 Apr 2014, 1:55 pm

InTheDeepEnd wrote:
So, this forum doesn't have any rules against resurrecting 4 year old threads....


No it doesn't. I don't see anything in the rules about it but it's still annoying when someone bumps an old thread but that also depends on the thread. Threads like this are okay because it's just a discussion. The OP isn't looking for advice or support. I get annoyed when old threads get bumped where an OP is ranting about something or asking for advice and they don't even come to the forum anymore. Those are the threads that tend to get locked when bumped. I just wish people would look at the time stamps or look at the OP's profile to see if they still come here and even if they do, I think there is still no point in a response because what they are talking about may have already been resolved or moot now because they had moved beyond it so any advice would be pointless now.


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06 Apr 2014, 4:02 pm

wozeree wrote:
InTheDeepEnd wrote:
So, this forum doesn't have any rules against resurrecting 4 year old threads....


I think it does actually. Somebody explained to me why once, but I can't remember.

Opal, what's a pink fit? I never heard that one before.


It's just an(really old) expression



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06 Apr 2014, 5:44 pm

I read the first two pages before I realized I was reading stuff from 2010. Someone early on mentioned William Freund and that maybe this should be in a Member's Only thread (oh God I hope it was this thread I was reading that said that) and I had to look up William Freund. Once I determined who that was, I agreed with the suggestion. In light of Adam Lanza, I think that suggestion is even more wise now.

And a friend of mine got banned from another forum for resurrecting an old thread, that's the only reason I mentioned it. I thought that was an extreme overreaction on the other forum's part. My friend just didn't understand how forums work.



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06 Apr 2014, 6:01 pm

I didn't realize it was an old thread until I read your message, but I suggest not to hide these kind of conversations,,.at first glance it may seem like a good idea to do that , but maybe not so good in the long run....

One thing that fascinates me when I see these old threads is how many people move on from this forum....I tend to wonder why....



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06 Apr 2014, 6:22 pm

littlebee wrote:
I didn't realize it was an old thread until I read your message, but I suggest not to hide these kind of conversations,,.at first glance it may seem like a good idea to do that , but maybe not so good in the long run....

One thing that fascinates me when I see these old threads is how many people move on from this forum....I tend to wonder why....


They're not trying to hide content, it has more to do with what league girl said, which jogged my memory about what someone told me. Some stuff is just old - as an example, someone restarted a thread today, responding to a comment from 2008. That's why they do it. I think the procedure isn't intended to shut down the conversation if you want to talk about it, but they would rather you started a new thread. This one may be ok though, because people are having a new discussion., not just talking into a void.



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06 Apr 2014, 6:30 pm

InTheDeepEnd wrote:
I read the first two pages before I realized I was reading stuff from 2010. Someone early on mentioned William Freund and that maybe this should be in a Member's Only thread (oh God I hope it was this thread I was reading that said that) and I had to look up William Freund. Once I determined who that was, I agreed with the suggestion. In light of Adam Lanza, I think that suggestion is even more wise now.

And a friend of mine got banned from another forum for resurrecting an old thread, that's the only reason I mentioned it. I thought that was an extreme overreaction on the other forum's part. My friend just didn't understand how forums work.



I learned the hard way that William Freund was not to be talked about here and he is a banned member I think. That was under the old staff team and I had no idea this fell under the rules here and then a couple months later, the mod that got mad at me about it broke that same rule by mentioning him in her post. Hypocrite.


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06 Apr 2014, 6:44 pm

Oh lord, I don't know who that person is, but I see trouble on the horizon.



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07 Apr 2014, 8:13 am

wozeree wrote:
littlebee wrote:
I didn't realize it was an old thread until I read your message, but I suggest not to hide these kind of conversations,,.at first glance it may seem like a good idea to do that , but maybe not so good in the long run....

One thing that fascinates me when I see these old threads is how many people move on from this forum....I tend to wonder why....


They're not trying to hide content, it has more to do with what league girl said, which jogged my memory about what someone told me. Some stuff is just old - as an example, someone restarted a thread today, responding to a comment from 2008. That's why they do it. I think the procedure isn't intended to shut down the conversation if you want to talk about it, but they would rather you started a new thread. This one may be ok though, because people are having a new discussion., not just talking into a void.

You seem to have your finger in a lot of pies:-) My comment was in response to this:

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In light of Adam Lanza, I think that suggestion is even more wise now.

Basically he was suggesting suppressing the topic because of idea content, and also someone in the original conversation suggested this thread be moved to the members only forum. This thread has been resurrected twice, by the way. This is the second time. You can see that this subject would be interesting to some people now in light of what happened with Adam Lanza.



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07 Apr 2014, 9:31 am

No offence to you, this is not directed at you in particular but...

People who seem to connect autism with antisocial or sociopathic behaviour just because we "don't have empathy" should be hit over the head with a thousand baseball bats.

Seriously though. #RAAAAGE.



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07 Apr 2014, 9:50 am

I live here in Washington state and the creepy thing is. If Ted Bundy hadn't gone on that murder spree, I bet you anything that he would have been governor of this state.



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07 Apr 2014, 9:54 am

It seems like people here are suggesting "hiding" any suggestion that autism is connected to antisocial disorder.

However, that hides the reality that ASD people get tortured as kids and predictably, and rightfully in my opinion, may turn out to have no respect for the "society" that permitted said torture.