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03 Nov 2010, 4:16 pm

The answer is simple; intelligent life is put together slowly from very, very complicated and flawed blueprints in a hostile environment; it doesn't always work right.


I'll try my hand at a parable; Alice , Bob and Charlie were bored one day and decided to take up gardening.

Alice wanted to plant some flowers outside in the garden, but decided not to, because they might die in the frost.

Bob planted some flowers outside in the garden and waited to see what happened. Some died but many flourished and Bob had a nice flower bed.

Charlie built a greenhouse and planted flowers inside. Charlie's flowers grew well, in nice ordered lines in little boxes.

No-one lived next door to them, so next door's garden was untended; who knows what happened there?


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03 Nov 2010, 4:31 pm

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No-one lived next door to them, so next door's garden was untended; who knows what happened there?


It grew into a vibrant and diverse ecosystem instead of some boring, fragile monozygotic idealization of what an individual considers beautiful?



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03 Nov 2010, 6:21 pm

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Wow. I speak my mind and I get burned for it once again...how typical.

i value your words, and i appreciate when you speak up.


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03 Nov 2010, 6:22 pm

For anyone who thinks he isn't a troll, notice the lack of replies back from him: Also, as stated, firing off several threads and then not returning to them, is pretty much what he always has done, and look: That's the case again here.

He's not going to post here (although with my luck, he will just for me saying that), so don't waste your energy.



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03 Nov 2010, 6:26 pm

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I joined the Quakers because I wanted social righteousness as well as meditativeness. I think many Protestant churches (I'd include the Quakers in this, though they wouldn't include themselves) have more of the self-righteous yang; Catholicism has the smug yin.

Now I don't believe in God at all, so practising an Abrahamic religion is pretty pointless for me. I know you don't have to believe in God to be a Quaker (in Britain at least) nowadays, but that always seemed disrespectful to the original intent of that organisation - so I stopped going to meetings.

OT: so interesting you were a Quaker. i really enjoyed learning about the Quakers in university and i felt at the time that it was a faith i could choose for myself (along with a couple of others), though i don't recall much about the religion now.

is it weird if i tell you that you seem very fascinating to me? i always look forward to your posts.


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03 Nov 2010, 6:29 pm

He's not a troll. He's a lost kid vying for attention and practically crying for help. This became apparent when he fired off a dozen desperate topics as soon as he became a member.

A bunch of computer geeks on a Web forum couldn't possibly help him though. He needs to find real help.



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03 Nov 2010, 6:36 pm

Dilbert wrote:
He's not a troll. He's a lost kid vying for attention and practically crying for help. This became apparent when he fired off a dozen desperate topics as soon as he became a member.

A bunch of computer geeks on a Web forum couldn't possibly help him though. He needs to find real help.

what's the difference between a troll and a lost kid on WP if the aftermath is the same? evidently, this individual is not actually interested in getting help from anyone on here, but instead seems to want to create waves...


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03 Nov 2010, 6:48 pm

The difference is intent. A troll by definition posts controversial topics with an intent to stir trouble. This dude is hurting inside and he's venting here. He's stuck in the cycle of recognizing his issues > complaining about his issues > not making any effort to fix his issues > complaining about his issues > etc... That's nuts if you ask me, but it's pretty common around here actually. :-/ He needs someone to show him the way out.



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03 Nov 2010, 7:50 pm

It's just one priest out of many other priests out there who defiantly have different views then he does. Not everybody likes us Aspies but God still loves us, no matter what the priests or anyone else says.


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03 Nov 2010, 7:57 pm

Dilbert wrote:
The difference is intent. A troll by definition posts controversial topics with an intent to stir trouble. This dude is hurting inside and he's venting here. He's stuck in the cycle of recognizing his issues > complaining about his issues > not making any effort to fix his issues > complaining about his issues > etc... That's nuts if you ask me, but it's pretty common around here actually. :-/ He needs someone to show him the way out.
Then again... he did make some earlier posts (before he created threads at a fast rate) and I recall he had other difficulties with others in his life, which could have been traumatic, so some of us could be wrong with the 'troll' thing.

However, it doesn't explain at all why he never returns to the threads. Ever. Also, it only vaguely explains why some of his threads come across as inciteful. I'm not sure we're getting the full story here in this thread, granted there is a story.



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03 Nov 2010, 9:09 pm

Dnuos wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
The difference is intent. A troll by definition posts controversial topics with an intent to stir trouble. This dude is hurting inside and he's venting here. He's stuck in the cycle of recognizing his issues > complaining about his issues > not making any effort to fix his issues > complaining about his issues > etc... That's nuts if you ask me, but it's pretty common around here actually. :-/ He needs someone to show him the way out.
Then again... he did make some earlier posts (before he created threads at a fast rate) and I recall he had other difficulties with others in his life, which could have been traumatic, so some of us could be wrong with the 'troll' thing.

However, it doesn't explain at all why he never returns to the threads. Ever. Also, it only vaguely explains why some of his threads come across as inciteful. I'm not sure we're getting the full story here in this thread, granted there is a story.


Noone with an ASD has ever had poor communication skills or been unintentionally offensive. :roll:


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03 Nov 2010, 9:13 pm

Dilbert wrote:
The difference is intent. A troll by definition posts controversial topics with an intent to stir trouble. This dude is hurting inside and he's venting here. He's stuck in the cycle of recognizing his issues > complaining about his issues > not making any effort to fix his issues > complaining about his issues > etc... That's nuts if you ask me, but it's pretty common around here actually. :-/ He needs someone to show him the way out.

i see what you're saying. maybe trolling is the wrong word. perhaps spamming is a better word.

issues or no issues, that's a lot of ASD-bashing threads. he may be venting, but he is emptying his clip on all of us.



(please excuse my sad attempt to use a gun metaphor)


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03 Nov 2010, 9:15 pm

hyperlexian wrote:



(please excuse my sad attempt to use a gun metaphor)


At least you took a shot at it ...



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03 Nov 2010, 9:18 pm

I have a suspicious feeling that the OP is collecting data so he can write a book on us.


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03 Nov 2010, 9:21 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
[I joined the Quakers because I wanted social righteousness as well as meditativeness. I think many Protestant churches (I'd include the Quakers in this, though they wouldn't include themselves) have more of the self-righteous yang; Catholicism has the smug yin.


Flannery O'Connor (who was a practicing Catholic) said in one of her letters, "Smugness is the Great Catholic Sin." Unfortunately it's definitely there. I just tell myself that no one is perfect and we all have our failings, and keep going to church.



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03 Nov 2010, 9:43 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:



(please excuse my sad attempt to use a gun metaphor)


At least you took a shot at it ...


so i wasn't on target?


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