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06 Jan 2013, 8:05 pm

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People are just like they have always been! Nothing has ever changed, there..
I bet if evetone on WP actually got evaluated, you would find at least 60-70% of posters were on the spectrum. However, there has always been a few who seem to think that a formal dx is required for membership here. Which proves that everyone has their own little biases.
That aside, most people know what I feel about "Aspie Pride" & such other attempts to make ASDs some sort of identity. These are disorders, not lifestyles.

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I'm not the one trying to flog my book on here



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06 Jan 2013, 8:07 pm

You spend your time on Twitter - enough said!

And you're also flogging your book

and? I have sent 48 tweets in 15 months and I offered to GIVE the book away (see post history!!)

What is your point?

So because of these things im not "AS" enough for you and should "go interact with my own kind?"

What is my own kind? Please tell me - you seem to know



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06 Jan 2013, 8:10 pm

answeraspergers wrote:
You spend your time on Twitter - enough said!

And you're also flogging your book

and? I have sent 48 tweets in 15 months and I offered to GIVE the book away.

What is your point?

So because of these things im not "AS" enough for you and should "go interact with my own kind?"

What is my own kind? Please tell me - you seem to know


Why is your book for sale on Amazon then?

Give us the benefit of your insight for free

You are an opportunist trying to make money out of people with ASDs, like the majority who pretend an interest

I'd advise people to get this book out the library if you're interested in it

I just don't get why people feel the need to read endless books on Aspergers

How is another person's experience of Aspergers/whatever they've got going to be relevant to your own life?

You have to work out your own path through life - no one else can do it for you

I've had it up to here with AS books - they annoy me



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06 Jan 2013, 8:15 pm

I have not drawn 1 penny of that money down.

You seem to think I will jump through hoops if you throw toys from the pram. No.

I offered to give it away.............I also offered to email it to people in PDF in the damn description.

You fail to make any point whatsoever and again throw in the bile and hate.



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06 Jan 2013, 8:16 pm

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I have not drawn 1 penny of that money down.

You seem to think I will jump through hoops if you throw toys from the pram. No.

I offered to give it away.............I also offered to email it to people in PDF in the damn description.

You fail to make any point whatsoever and again throw in the bile and hate.


No I'm debating and you are trying to shut down the debate as it's not going how you want it

I don't hate you, I just sense insincerity in you

Where do people have to email if they want to read your book then?

(I don't by the way)



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06 Jan 2013, 8:18 pm

it seems everything annoys you - is that enjoyable?



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06 Jan 2013, 8:19 pm

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it seems everything annoys you - is that enjoyable?


Are you going to email your book for free to people who want to read it or not?

I'm very confused



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06 Jan 2013, 8:21 pm

Dont convince yourself its "not going the way i want"

What is the way i want?

I just know full well a first stage ego when I encounter one and I wont be wasting much time. Nothing more than that.

And also its very late, im tired and i get no joy from this,



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06 Jan 2013, 8:22 pm

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It's fairly obvious to me that people like myself and B9 are more 'autistic', hence we see things in a more clear-cut, black and white way and those who are heading more towards the NT end of the spectrum see things in a more 'grey' manner. Hence the disagreements. This is why I will always support a person like B9 whether he's right or wrong as I feel more 'kinship with him.
I don't think some people here 'get' this kinship feeling and it's probably because your kinship is closer to the NT end of the spectrum but you don't want to play down the deep end with the big boys, you prefer to try and 'lord it' over people further down the spectrum, which is pretty crass in my opinion - go and interact with your own type instead of trying to impose NT-related thinking onto people who aren't interested in it.

I have an innate 'like me/not like me' instinct


I recall that a couple month ago you did not seem to understand the concept of "executive dysfunction" a couple members reported to be severe in their cases.
When you read literature written by autistic individuals on the more severe end of the spectrum or reports being written about individuals on the more severe end of the spectrum, who cannot write themselves, it should be clear, that "executive dysfunction" is an innate outcome in more severe autism.
I cannot recall you supporting these members reporting it, which gives me difficulty to understand your statement of being "more autistic".
And b9 reported repeatedly he does not feel any "we" regarding his experience of having Aspergers in relatin to other people on this board, but you used this "we", which makes your statement illogical to me.


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06 Jan 2013, 8:22 pm

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Dont convince yourself its "not going the way i want"

What is the way i want?

I just know full well a first stage ego when I encounter one and I wont be wasting much time. Nothing more than that.

And also its very late


Oh, so the empty promise of a free copy to people was just that

I might have an ego but I also have a generous heart

I'm trying to get you to follow suit!



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06 Jan 2013, 8:23 pm

Its not an empty promise at all.

You said you dont want to read it one post and now slag me off because I didnt respond.

Look at my post history if you dont believe me - its not long.



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06 Jan 2013, 8:24 pm

Eloa wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
It's fairly obvious to me that people like myself and B9 are more 'autistic', hence we see things in a more clear-cut, black and white way and those who are heading more towards the NT end of the spectrum see things in a more 'grey' manner. Hence the disagreements. This is why I will always support a person like B9 whether he's right or wrong as I feel more 'kinship with him.
I don't think some people here 'get' this kinship feeling and it's probably because your kinship is closer to the NT end of the spectrum but you don't want to play down the deep end with the big boys, you prefer to try and 'lord it' over people further down the spectrum, which is pretty crass in my opinion - go and interact with your own type instead of trying to impose NT-related thinking onto people who aren't interested in it.

I have an innate 'like me/not like me' instinct


I recall that a couple month ago you did not seem to understand the concept of "executive dysfunction" a couple members reported to be severe in their cases.
When you read literature written by autistic individuals on the more severe end of the spectrum or reports being written about individuals on the more severe end of the spectrum, who cannot write themselves, it should be clear, that "executive dysfunction" is an innate outcome in more severe autism.
I cannot recall you supporting these members reporting it, which gives me difficulty to understand your statement of being "more autistic".
And b9 reported repeatedly he does not feel any "we" regarding his experience of having Aspergers in relatin to other people on this board, but you used this "we", which makes your statement illogical to me.


No, I understand executive dysfunction perfectly. What I did not understand was people not being able to use common sense - the two are different things.

I have gone through a lot of changes as regards my attitude towards my autism, from wantign t deny it completely, to accepting it and wanting to push back against people who make me feel bad for being how I am; expressing myself as I do.



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06 Jan 2013, 8:24 pm

Does assuming negative things of others make you feel better?



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06 Jan 2013, 8:25 pm

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Its not an empty promise at all.

You said you dont want to read it one post and now slag me off because I didnt respond.

Look at my post history if you dont believe me - its not long.


I said where do the people who do want you read your book need to email?



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06 Jan 2013, 8:26 pm

answeraspergers wrote:
Does assuming negative things of others make you feel better?


People rarely surprise me - most are out for themselves



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06 Jan 2013, 8:27 pm

If you cant work that out, I cant be bothered to tell you.