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31 Dec 2013, 1:02 am

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Which is exactly what I was doing 4 years ago when I got my life back on track, started listening to The Kinks, liking the 60s and being myself once more after a very dark period. I must have drove everyone who was on WP at the time nuts.

I doubt it's exactly the same if you're not experiencing a near complete reduction in all of the AS symptoms you experience.

It's not sheer coincidence that my anxiety is gone, audio sensitivity is gone, am a lot more naturally & intuitively social, balance coordination & motor skills have all improved dramatically, the prosody of my voice is no longer so "aspie," (when I listen to my voicemail greeting that I set a couple years ago it's horrrrrribly aspie compared to what I sound like now).. etc. The AS symptoms I've experienced my entire life are either extremely minimal or gone. I've had periods of hard work, focus & self improvement in the past - yet all of these symptoms and more remained. This is different. These symptoms are gone. I think & feel better than I ever have. THAT is why I keep posting about this because I cannot be the only one on these forums who's Autism symptoms have been caused by these very same digestive issues - especially not when there are plenty of others posting about IBS symptoms. No, correlation does not mean causation.. but it's been my experience that these digestive issues caused my neurological issues, and healing them has dramatically improved my brain functions.

I actually feel kind of bad for you, it seems like you've got something like a virtual tape player looping in your head - I've been there, it's not fun and it's anything but healthy. Maybe you should go OFF the diet (I'm not kidding).

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31 Dec 2013, 2:23 am

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I actually feel kind of bad for you, it seems like you've got something like a virtual tape player looping in your head - telling you that what I'm telling you isn't true and that no matter what there's no way that changing your diet or trying anything new may alleviate the symptoms that have been screwing with your life for so long now that you're afraid to know anything different or better. Especially since it would only take a couple of weeks of diet experiment to either prove or disprove it to yourself, but instead that tape keeps telling you it's BS so you're not willing to try anything that might be good for you.

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31 Dec 2013, 10:15 am

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I wouldn't take the cure if I was payed $ 1 Million to do so. I like my autism and I don't see any reason to cure or heal myself, because there's no need for me to do that. Don't you have better things to do than corner sensitive souls?

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31 Dec 2013, 10:37 am

After thinking about it for 0.4 nanoseconds - no, I would not take a cure.

My autism is at the core of who I am. Sure it's a double edged sword, but it's what defines me. And I don't want "me" to go away.

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31 Dec 2013, 3:06 pm

I would never take a cure. I find people unlike me hard to be around. I search out "odd" people, and feel closer to them. For some odd reason, I like myself the way I am.

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31 Dec 2013, 3:52 pm

I don't care that I will lose ''who I am''. I don't even like who I am. I want to be an NT person. I want to be one of them, inside the social box, being socially accepted and included. OK I'm not saying I'm not socially accepted, but that's because I make a lot of effort. My social life could still be better, if only I was NT.

I am very aware of the NT world. I am aware of what goes on, how people think and feel, and I can easily view the world from an NT's point of view. I can imagine how it must be like to go to a social event like a party and not feel shy, bored or nervous. It must be fun to sometimes be the center of attention and know what to say and be part of the group, instead of the shy timid girl who just tags along just to get out of the house.

Like I said, I'm aware of what I'm missing out on. I really badly want to go on holiday. The thought of a nice vacation by the sea and visiting different places and eating out really thrills me. But I've got no-one to do it with, sadly. It makes me feel very depressed but also panicky because life is blazing away and I'm not going to have anything to show for it. I then start to think what is life all about? I feel like Asperger's is like a bubble what I can't escape from. I am forever trapped inside this bubble. I'm a normal person inside of this bubble, but the bubble is what's stopping me from being able to do all the things I want to do, and will make life goals harder to achieve.
It's like tonight, on new years eve, I feel like I'm the only young person (without any kids) who is not out celebrating the new year. It's very unlikely that I am the only one, but I feel like I'm the only one.

I'm not saying all NTs are free and lucky and happy. Yes, they have problems too. They can get things like anxiety and depression and stress what can bring them down and hold them back from socialising or being happy etc, but..... I can't think of a way to finish the sentence. I still rather be NT than be beholden to a lifelong condition.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:17 pm

As always, unless a person has received a valid diagnosis of AS/ASD from an appropriately-trained, experienced and licensed mental-health professional, he or she can not be certain that there has been a "cure" of anything.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:25 pm

Fnord wrote:

Correct Fnord, a lot of people who claim to have cured themselves don't even have a valid diagnosis.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:31 pm

Fnord wrote:

Since you're referring to me, I'll reply.

I know exactly what my entire life's experiences have been and that they match the criteria for Asperger's precisely. I can read, just like any of you, and reading texts on Asperger's was a massive "eureka," moment for me as it has been for many here. I've been transparent about not having an official diagnosis. I've also stated why - because there's no benefit to having one & only possible detriments. I don't need one in order to know what I know. Nor do I have any need to have a piece of paper confirm what I know in order to receive your validation that I know what I know. Also, I know exactly what has changed for me by treating myself as I've described. Again, I don't need your validation to know what symptoms I used to experience for my entire life up until this point that I no longer have.

In all the time people have spent here accusing me of lying or playing some sort of elaborate hoax they could have tried the basic diet I've proposed and found out for themselves if it begins having the same effect of reducing/eliminating symptoms. It really is that simple.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:47 pm

I would not take a cure. I do not care if I sound like an autistic supremist but I believe, for a variety of reasons, that if we were to be 'cured" there would be no one to protect the world from total anialation. I also believe that the time is ripe for changes in society [that need to be put into motion by us, the autistic community] that will greatly improve the quality of life of our people as a whole.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:47 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

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A lot have tried the diet and found out it is not as good as you have said.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm

I think it's important to remember that dietary remedies are going to be different for everyone. Some people experience a huge difference when they go gluten-free or casein-free, while others experience no difference at all. And the same is true for every other remedy out there.

I've tried many different dietary approaches, and the only thing that's made a noticeable difference for me has been flax oil (omega-3). I swear by the stuff; it makes it so that instead of having 100 thoughts in my head at one time, I only have maybe 2 or 3.

But I wouldn't presume that what works for me is going to have the same dramatic, life-changing results for anyone else. For those who have found their own ideal diet that makes them feel at their best, that is awesome. But I think the answer is going to be different for everyone.

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31 Dec 2013, 5:59 pm

okay, total anialation was not the best term, but I believe that autistics and other creatively wired people keep the world from being even more cruel and insanr than it already is.

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31 Dec 2013, 6:09 pm

Ashariel wrote:

I agree with you. I don't think there is one cause for autistic symptoms. The diet and supplements work for me and goldfish, but I know that they may not work for everyone.

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31 Dec 2013, 6:13 pm

When I've been asked this in the past I have said yes.

Today, I will still say yes.

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31 Dec 2013, 6:15 pm

No.

I want to be accepted for who and whatever i am.

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