Subculturey people on WP?

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^ The historical Aristophanes was somewhat anti-intellectual. Check out his play The Clouds (423 BC).

I've read all nine of his surviving plays, and the two that are incomplete (Clouds being one). He wasn't anti-intellectual, he was basically the South Park of his day-- he attacked everyone especially those that had cultural power, the sophists (and by extension all philosophers, such as Socrates) being one of those groups. What he did with Socrates in Clouds was nothing compared to what he did to Cleon in Knights.

^ Over here we'd be more likely to see him as the Spitting Image of his day.

I don't even know what a Mod is, seriously.
Could someone explain.

lumbersexual?!?!?

where I'm from nerd and geek are interchangeable, no?

I don't get out much...apparently

I thought that the Mods were the Sixties, and not the Eighties.

What little I know about the subject comes from two movies: "Quadraphenia", and "A Hard Days Night".
Apparently there is big subculture of British youth who join motorscooter ( scooter, not cycle) gangs. And that group is subdivided into the rival "Mods" and "Rockers".

Lumbersexual????

Use protection, or you will get splinters,AND Dutch Elm disease!

I don't think the bands you mention are for p*****s just not my kind of music particularly. Hell I don't even really like Metallica or Lamb of God, Slayer I will always like but they're not even all that good. Metal came from Black Sabbath and I hear plenty of so called metal fans trying to say Black Sabbath isn't metal....that bothers me far more than someone into metal listening to a bit of metalcore types stuff. But I can sort of see what you mean there are people into metal who get rather elitist....and even think bands have to stick with how they sounded initially even if the band themselves wants to change it up. I mean basically I am a metalhead but I get its not everyones favorite thing and I am certainly not an authority on what exactly makes metal.

oh...ok.
thank you

I think Mod is a special interest of WP member CockneyRebel.

I don't think the bands you mention are for p*****s just not my kind of music particularly. Hell I don't even really like Metallica or Lamb of God, Slayer I will always like but they're not even all that good. Metal came from Black Sabbath and I hear plenty of so called metal fans trying to say Black Sabbath isn't metal....that bothers me far more than someone into metal listening to a bit of metalcore types stuff. But I can sort of see what you mean there are people into metal who get rather elitist....and even think bands have to stick with how they sounded initially even if the band themselves wants to change it up. I mean basically I am a metalhead but I get its not everyones favorite thing and I am certainly not an authority on what exactly makes metal.[/quote

Took me years to start to learn the differences between all the subgenres (which I only partially get now). I've come to learn that I am more of a -core guy than a -metal guy. -core tends to involve more groove and allows for more outside genres influences.

I remember me and a friend getting within seconds of a pretty big fight about 12-13 year ago at a Candiria show. They, at the time, and even today were totally different from anything that existed. They incorporate jazz, rap, tribal and ambient noise styles. Plus the singer is a black guy. This drew the ire of all "real" metal and even hardcore fans with whom they were force to play for lack of touring options. So I almost got assaulted for wearing their gear to their show because of how they were viewed. I'd have kicked the f**k out of the guy, and my friend was a beast at the time, this dude and his four friend all looked like over the hill little b*****s, but thats not the point.

It's a very, very elitist group. It's a hot button topic of mine because there are some very talented bands out there that are struggling badly to continue to exist because of the overall shittiness of typical metal fans. It's one thing for something to not be your taste, but don't make it appear lesser or make people actually afraid to wear merch in public.

I don't like Sabbath or anything that really existed before the 90's. Though you can't take away the influence they had on metal.

Oddly enough I was glad to see both Chino from the Deftones and Greg from DEP guest vocalled on the new Lamb of God. Not because it was any good, but I imagined all the rageful fans who were so angry such people would work with LoG. F**k em.

This is hard to remember because now I'm just in the "mom" subculture.

I'm into something called stoner metal, although I am anti-drugs. I also listen to something called experimental metal or new classical, which is somewhat like drone metal.

I'm in a tattoo subculture, which is similar to biker subculture. Some styles and people are respectable and some aren't. Things are done in a certain way and if you don't do it that way you're not in the culture, no matter how "done" you are.

I'm in generation X, which is a subculture. There aren't as many of us as other generations, and our values are a lot like the Veteran generation, in stark contrast to our parents and children.

I'm in the latest regions of the Baby Boomer generation.

I tend to like classic rock and Doo-wopp, though I listen and enjoy many kinds of music.

"Mom" is a subculture, isn't it? As is "dad" I assume. I wonder how many people - despite being 'good parents', etc - don't *feel* part of either?

Also....Gen-X, of course! Although I identify as Gen-X due to the cultural and historical influences, I rarely consider myself part of it as a subculture. Mostly because *at the time* I wasn't part of it. Typical AS/ASD cultural latency. But the references still make me nostalgic & it's fun to reminisce.

What are stereotypical Gen-x values, out of curiosity?

There are loads of subcultures I've been inspired by and learned from, although they're rarely ones that are actually happening around me at any given time.

I look up to the beatniks of the 1950s and to some extent the hippies of the late 60s, even though I didn't live through either of those eras. I also got interested in the American hardcore punk scene of the early 80s and the college rock genre that it spawned, even though I'm a Brit and have never lived in the States.

Conversely, the subculture I was actually surrounded by during that time was the crusty / New Age traveller movement, but I had a lot of reservations about that scene - the main one being that for a group of people who prided themselves on being non-confirmists, they seemed to have a lot of unwritten rules, such as a stringent dress code (red hair, DMs, those army surplus shirts with the German flag on the sleeves, and a liking for bands I mostly thought were dreadful, such as the Levellers and Back to the Planet. I never got into both for the same reasons, even though there were quite a few of them in my home village.

Maybe subcultures seem more exotic when viewed from a distance which enables you to ignore their minus points and only absorb the aspects that appeal to you. Or maybe I'm just a born contrarian.

Had no friends until I was 18. Fell in with a druggy deadhead bunch. Got bored with that. Joined the junior college science fiction club (even though I never read science fiction before) but fitted in with the odd mix of geeks and freaks in the club. The hybrid culture of that little group was probably the only time I felt at a home in a "subculture". I also made friends with two actual musicians who influenced me to listen to stuff other than rock/pop. One got me into jazz, the other got me into roots blues.