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27 Jul 2007, 4:34 am

Ideas of reference: 7 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Excessive social anxiety: 8 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 3 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 7.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 7 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 8.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd speech : 7 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 6.5 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Suspiciousness: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Total SPQ-A: 61.5 out of 74


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27 Jul 2007, 7:38 am

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:lol: I don't know. are people still using psychedelic drugs? much? i thought they were a thing of another era. i could be wrong


Not sure but my guess its use is as common now as before.

Scientist looked for some unknown psychedelic agent that schizophrenics possible were making internally but as far as I know they never found such a substance. But anti-psychotic medications can completely suppress a psychedelic trip as well as they can suppress the hallucinations of a schizophrenics.

So If your theory of STPD effected persons having lower ego is reality than its possible the same mechanism might be at play as has been seen in psychedelic users. Basically a person with STPD might be on the equivalent of a low dose of LSD. :lol:



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27 Jul 2007, 8:03 am

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...low dose of LSD.


I think they're doing trials with low doses of LSD for OCD. FYI and all that....



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27 Jul 2007, 8:12 am

Danielismyname wrote:
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...low dose of LSD.


I think they're doing trials with low doses of LSD for OCD. FYI and all that....


Could not find that but I did find this:

"Effects of Psilocybin in Advanced-Stage Cancer Patients With Anxiety".
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Effects of Psilocybin in Advanced-Stage Cancer Patients With Anxiety

This study is currently recruiting patients.
Verified by Heffter Research Institute December 2005Sponsored by: Heffter Research Institute
Information provided by: Heffter Research Institute
ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT00302744



Purpose

PSYCHIATRIC RESEARCH STUDY FOR CANCER PATIENTS

The Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center is conducting a study designed to measure the effectiveness of the novel psychoactive medication psilocybin on the reduction of anxiety, depression, and physical pain. Condition Intervention Phase
Anxiety Drug: Psilocybin (drug) Phase I


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Study Type: Interventional
Study Design: Treatment, Non-Randomized, Double-Blind, Placebo Control, Single Group Assignment, Safety/Efficacy Study

Official Title: Effects of Psilocybin in Advanced-Stage Cancer Patients With Anxiety
Further study details as provided by Heffter Research Institute:

Total Enrollment: 7

Study start: April 2004

The significance of this study is that it is addressing the important issues of psychological and spiritual well being of people who have advanced cancer. In 2001, the National Cancer Policy Board of the Institute of Medicine and National Research Council issued a report (Improving Palliative Care for Cancer: Summary and Recommendations) that specifically recommended research be conducted using novel agents and methods. Psilocybin is a novel agent which produces a profound alteration in your state of consciousness. It is the main active ingredient found in “magic mushrooms”.

Our specific aim is to learn whether this psychoactive drug, psilocybin, might be effective in reducing anxiety, depression and physical pain, and therefore improving your quality of life. This pilot study will start with 12 people ages 18-70. For each participant there will be two overnight admissions to the hospital. In one session you will be given a placebo and in the other you will get the active medication, but no one will know which drug is administered when. This is called a double blind study. You will be asked to fill out questionnaires about how you feel, your pain levels and your moods. There will also be at least two psychotherapy meetings before the study sessions, so that you are fully aware of what to expect and to have all your questions answered.

We cannot take you in the study if you have central nervous system (CNS) cancers, kidney disease, diabetes, abnormal liver function tests, epilepsy, cardiovascular disease including untreated high blood pressure (BP greater than 140/90), and pregnancy. The psychiatric exclusions are: you or an immediate family member with a history of a major psychiatric disorder, a current substance abuse problem, or an anxiety or a mood disorder within 1 year prior to the onset of symptoms of your current illness.

We also cannot take you in the study if you are taking certain medications, such as: anti-seizure, insulin and oral hypoglycemics, and cardiovascular drugs (except anti-hypertensive medications). Some antidepressant (SSRIs) medications cannot be taken within the two weeks prior to the session. (Except for Prozac, which cannot be taken in the last 5 weeks prior to the session.)

You will get a MRI of the brain prior to admission (if you haven’t had one in the prior two months), at the study’s expense, to be sure there is no CNS involvement. You can provide us, or the study will pay for, lab work from the prior 2 weeks (CBC, liver function and renal function). The history and physical, neurological exam, EKG, and a urine pregnancy test (if you are a woman with child-bearing potential), will be done on admission by the house staff doctors.

You will be allowed to take your own medications while in the hospital, and will be encouraged to bring to the hospital personal photos, small memorabilia, and some of your favorite music that can be played during the sessions.

Eligibility
Ages Eligible for Study: 18 Years - 70 Years, Genders Eligible for Study: Both
Criteria

Inclusion Criteria:
Have advanced-stage cancer and anxiety.
Be between the ages of 18 – 70.

Note: The location for the two treatment sessions is Los Angeles, California. Treatment sessions are scheduled three to six weeks apart, and they include one overnight hospital stay both times.

Exclusion Criteria:
Not have cancer that affects the central nervous system or brain function.
Have no history of major psychiatric disorder.
Have no kidney disease, abnormal liver functions, epilepsy, or cardiovascular disease, including untreated hypertension.
Not be taking insulin, oral hypoglycemic, anti-seizure, or cardiovascular medications (except anti-hypertensive drugs).
May take PRN benzodiazepines up to 3 days before the session.
No Prozac for the previous 5 weeks.
No medications the day of and the day after treatment sessions, except may take ongoing adjuvant chemotherapy as prescribed, prescribed or over-the-counter non-narcotic pain medication at any time, and narcotic pain medications up to eight hours before administration of psilocybin and six hours after administration.
No alcohol consumption the day before, the day of, and the day after a session.
Female subjects of childbearing potential must have a negative pregnancy test and agree to use an effective form of birth control.

Location and Contact Information
Please refer to this study by ClinicalTrials.gov identifier NCT00302744

Alicia Danforth, Coordinator 310-222-3175 adanforth@earthlink.net
Charles S. Grob, MD 310-222-3175 grob@humc.edu

United States, California
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, Torrance, California, 90509, United States; Recruiting
Charles S. Grob, MD, Principal Investigator

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Charles S. Grob, MD, Principal Investigator, University of California, Los Angeles

More Information
Study ID Numbers: HEFFTER11287-01
Last Updated: March 28, 2007
Record first received: March 10, 2006
ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT00302744
Health Authority: United States: Institutional Review Board
ClinicalTrials.gov processed this record on July 26, 2007



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27 Jul 2007, 9:51 am

For those with OCD and who score highly here, it looks like there's evidence for something called "schizotypal OCD", which is separate from both schizotypal (personality) disorder and OCD.

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While the neurobiology of OCD and schizophrenia has been extensively studied in the past decade, there is lack of controlled study in patients with OC schizophrenia. The research evidence implicates dysfunction of dorsolateral prefrontal cortex circuit in schizophrenia and cortico-striatal-thalamic-cortex in OCD, and both disorders involve predominantly dopaminergic and serotonergic neurotransmitter systems.[17,18] A recent paper that examined the neuroanatomical abnormalities in OCD, schizotypal OCD, and schizophrenia showed a significant gray matter volume reduction suggested that that the schizotypal OCD may be a distinct neuropathological process.


http://www.psychiatrymmc.com/displayArt ... article229



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27 Jul 2007, 9:52 am

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Total SPQ-A: 71 out of 74

I gladly yield the high score to you, sir. [If I've kept track of high scores properly.]

Though, in all honesty, I think RainSong could give us both a run for our money, and win.


Close, but not quite.

Ideas of reference: 7.5 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Excessive social anxiety: 8 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 6 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 8.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 7 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 9 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd speech : 9 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 8 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Suspiciousness: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Total SPQ-A: 70 out of 74


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27 Jul 2007, 11:52 am

http://www.csp.org/nicholas/A5.html

Reading up on LSD and ego. Here is a quote from the above link of one guys self report.

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The profound and terrifying ego-loss experience induced by 8 hits of lsd had unanticipated effects. Over the next several months, I became increasingly "religious", perfectly confident that my soul had literally touched the divine. Subsequent lower-dose experiments induced religious and mystical experiences that I would have thought inaccessable at all but the highest doses.


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30 Jul 2007, 11:14 am

you can be diagnosed with this personality disorder alongside a pervasive development disorder

funny how that works eh?



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30 Jul 2007, 11:15 am

excuse me, you CANNOT be diagnosed....



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30 Jul 2007, 12:27 pm

Ideas of reference 3.5 out of 9 Unsure 1
Excessive social anxiety 7.5 out of 8 Unsure 0
Odd beliefs or magical thinking 3 out of 7 Unsure 1
Unusual perceptual experiences 6.5 out of 9 Unsure 0
Odd or eccentric behavior 7 out of 7 Unsure 0
No close friends 5.5 out of 9 Unsure 0
Odd speech 9 out of 9 Unsure 0
Constricted affect 7 out of 8 Unsure 0
Suspiciousness 2 out of 8 Unsure 1
Total SPQ-A 51 out of 74



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30 Jul 2007, 1:16 pm

Ideas of reference: 5.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Excessive social anxiety: 7.5 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 1.5 out of 7 (unsure: 2)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 3 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 5.5 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 7.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd speech : 1.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 8 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Suspiciousness: 3.5 out of 8 (unsure: 1)
Total SPQ-A: 43.5 out of 74



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30 Jul 2007, 3:20 pm

Aradford wrote:
you can be diagnosed with this personality disorder alongside a pervasive development disorder

funny how that works eh?

[excuse me, you CANNOT be diagnosed....]

Yes, I note that acording to section 299.80 of the DSM-IV, criterion F is specified as:

"Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia."

I’ve always thought that’s kind of a throw-away requirement, since AS is a spectrum disorder which defies precise definition. Personally, I do not believe AS and schizotypal personality are mutually exclusive (though I note that schizotypal personality and schizophrenia are not exactly the same thing), and defining them as such is an error, or needs a bit of re-wording at least.

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30 Jul 2007, 4:19 pm

Ideas of reference: 8 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Excessive social anxiety: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 5.5 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 6 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 6.5 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 5.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd speech : 8 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 5 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Suspiciousness: 7.5 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Total SPQ-A: 59 out of 74



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30 Jul 2007, 4:45 pm

Off-topic Alert: Invoking divine providence. Sue me or challenge me to single combat if you don't like it.

Good gods! Freya, again? I just sent my depressed MySpace friend this [in part]:

"...I've raked stinging nettles along the inside of my left forearm, more than once. In the olden days, would sometimes do this to distract myself from the pain of my life, the pain in my head. Nowadays, I do this just to see if I can still feel anything at all. I think I may go do that now, just to see if it somehow makes you feel better. I've run into one of the Norse goddesses too many times recently for it to be coincidence; she is not in my pantheon, but perhaps she will listen to my pleas and accept my sacrifice in exchange for sending a bit of serendipity your way...."

Freya was the goddess I was talking about. I've run into her in various incarnations an inordinate number of times recently. I send that message, and moments later there is a post-reply alert in my inbox which jumps to a message from Freya, and the message has to do with the schizotypal test of all things.

My arm is now covered with burning, blistery welts. Freya, I expect you to uphold your side of the bargain.

[This message is not directed at any particular user, e.g. Freya918, but to the actual goddess of the same name.]

Off-topic Alert over. Please, carry on.

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31 Jul 2007, 3:44 pm

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http://www.csp.org/nicholas/A5.html

Reading up on LSD and ego. Here is a quote from the above link of one guys self report.

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The profound and terrifying ego-loss experience induced by 8 hits of lsd had unanticipated effects. Over the next several months, I became increasingly "religious", perfectly confident that my soul had literally touched the divine. Subsequent lower-dose experiments induced religious and mystical experiences that I would have thought inaccessable at all but the highest doses.

This makes me remember ayahuasca, and the religions built over it,


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