Why do NTs sometimes react angrily to people with AS?

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05 Sep 2007, 9:45 am

That's a good point Erich!



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05 Sep 2007, 10:38 am

juliekitty wrote:
Because they're stupid.


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05 Sep 2007, 10:46 am

Mostly its just that AS & NT's don't communicate in the same manner so it creates conflicts and misunderstandings. Then some NT's are jerks, just like some AS are also jerks.

But just because someone is not AS does not mean they are normal. You got a lot of people out there called NT's who have other issues like BP, Schizo and other personality disorders and they have a lot of communication issues as well.



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05 Sep 2007, 10:47 am

The world is full of negativity if you look. But it shouldn't be all there is: my new (usually quiet) friend taught me to conceive of that.

I think that I can remember the positive things more often these days then I have in the past. But this is how worries are defined: a fixation on negativity. There is always an outside cause to a problem. If there is none then its just the person who is unstable in their ability and rationality. Many people out there are just "cases".

However, there are stressors because of living with anxiety or a syndrome of some kind. But I learned that it helps to talk and be more mature most of the time because there are a bunch of flakes going around these days and especially on the internet, trying to get the best of others by inferiorating them.

In these times where there are certain demands / economic demands and that we lose touch with meaning and purpose in life, people lose in touch with rationality and, therefore, it contributes to their selfish egoistic impulses.



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05 Sep 2007, 10:59 am

I've been angry with other AS people loads of times and I have lost paitence with AS people before and I am AS as I can't think of anyone at the moment I'm sure it would come to me.



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05 Sep 2007, 3:30 pm

At least you probably had a reason.

I had a cashier fly into a rage at me a couple of months ago because I asked her for an extra plastic bag. "You don't have to get so MAD about it," she wailed.

I'm like, Huh? :?: :roll:



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06 Sep 2007, 3:16 pm

Well I read somewhere on the internet that living with someone with Aspergers is the same as "water torture". It is just a constant drip of annoyance. I can clearly see this with my behavior over the years. Even now that I know it, I can't stop saying annoying things that have no substance.



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07 Sep 2007, 9:55 am

CentralFLM wrote:
Well I read somewhere on the internet that living with someone with Aspergers is the same as "water torture". It is just a constant drip of annoyance. I can clearly see this with my behavior over the years. Even now that I know it, I can't stop saying annoying things that have no substance.


I don't think annoying things with no substance would have anything to do with AS per se...

I am probably frustrating for a variety of reasons :-/



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07 Sep 2007, 10:00 am

Why do neurotypes get angry with me... why do I get angry with neurotypes... in my own personal experiences it works both ways... and often... annoyingly. :x


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07 Sep 2007, 11:04 am

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I don't think you're being overly sensitive. I think that either you're a teenager dealing with other teenagers, or that you're grossly misinterpreting people's actions based on past negative experiences.


Nope. Full-grown adult, dealing with other full-grown adults doing the "grown-up" version of the same kind of things. Name-calling, cut-downs, exclusion, workplace bullying, workplace hostility, gossip.... you name it.

I'd have thought as you do, that these rotten kids would grow up and become sensible adults, but often that's just not the case. Many might be fine with their peers, but an outsider will still be cannon fodder as they were when in high school.


I'll admit I've been under too many thumbs, which has coloured my outlook and created a general mistrust.... this does not help me in any way. I can recognize the pattern, but I have a terrible time controlling it.

Even when I responded to your "I don't think they exist" and "everyone is different and you have to get along with them anyway" comments, I was very angry because I know they exist - they've abused me dozens of times. :( That someone on "the outside" doesn't see this happening adds a new level of frustration, because what hurts more is not just that I've been hurt by someone - but that noone believes me that it's happening so the abuser can continue to their heart's content with a free pass and clear conscience since it's even been condoned!



That said, I'm sorry you ever had to suffer in this way! I'm glad your suffering ended with high school - I wish mine had. Instead, it just became all the more elaborate and harder for me to understand.


I had a boss not to long ago that liked to torment me. He'd give me the crap work, sabatoge work I had done, and loved to call me Rainman, and mumbleman. I eventually got fired, but went to the labor board getting him transfered to the worst shop, and demoted to the lowest position in the coorporation that they invented just for him. AS revenge sweet.



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07 Sep 2007, 5:33 pm

CentralFLM wrote:
Well I read somewhere on the internet that living with someone with Aspergers is the same as "water torture". It is just a constant drip of annoyance. I can clearly see this with my behavior over the years. Even now that I know it, I can't stop saying annoying things that have no substance.


This is the quote from Dr. Kathy J. Marshack: Many describe living with an Aspie as “water torture.” It is the constant drip, drip, drip of small thoughtless behaviors that destroys the relationship. The lack of eye contact, the obsessive/compulsive behaviors, the adherence to rigid routines, the self absorption, the social anxiety, all lead to family members feeling like they just cannot connect with their Asperger family members. But it isn’t so much the unusual behaviors that make the connecting difficult, but the inconsistency. Never knowing what is coming next, makes a loving connection very difficult.

This destroys a relationship, it doesn't make random strangers angry.

Is there a situation you can give as an example? I can give you 200 different reasons why someone got angry or annoyed, but your best bet is to take a deep breath and ask why they ae being so hostile. You have nothing to lose.

Just a heads up, the common public is generally annoyed. They are stressed, always in a rush, and don't care much about anything but someone else getting out of their way.

NTs do get very uncomfortable around people that look or act strange (stranger than monkey gestures??), even if they can't put their finger on what the exact cause is. It's just their nature. I definitly had less patience when younger and got weirded out at the slightest things. Once I got older, I realized nothing is worth my aggrivation. And I have never been mean to anyone, and I rarely get angry (usually when someone lies to me I get mad. That's about it).