Paddling a child with AS Corporal punishment

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What a b***h. Corporal punishment is bad enough without people doing it for no reason.

I had to do those wall squats in school too (though I've always heard them referred to as the "electric chair" position since when we had to do it you acted like you were sitting down and held your arms out straight in front of you). I never saw a kid cry from it though, but maybe your teacher was just sadistic and made kids stay in that position for prolonged periods of time or maybe it was due to the age of the kids. I can remember getting really uncomfortable when my muscles would get tired and start burning, but I never got cramps from it and I never came close to crying.

And I got that position really bad one time too. I took karate lessons as a kid and one day I came into the building yelling at my mom for some reason (I think we were fighting about why I was late). Well, apparently I was loud enough for the instructor to overhear so when I came into the practice room he decided to punish me for the whole hour by making me do a ton of physically stressing things (all in front of the whole class and all their parents mind you). I had to do stuff like run laps around the room carrying two weighted cushions on my head (you know, those big cushions one person holds out for someone else to kick), a lot of push-ups, pull-ups, etc. But he also made me sit in that electric chair position for something like 15 minutes and not only did I have to stretch my arms out but I had to support two weight cushions on them (and I had to do several more variations of that as well). The pain sucked but it just felt like I was doing a lot of exercises, so it wasn't terrible for me. I was like "yeah, this really sucks, I hope he lets me relax soon" but I was used to that feeling already after having done karate for about two years.

Really the worst part was just the humiliation of having everyone watching me get punished. And really that was what was always the biggest deterrent for me as a kid. While I didn't like getting punished, what really made me feel bad was just being labeled as a bad kid since I was really sensitive as a kid to others' opinions of me (well to the extent that I could recognize which actions would cause people to view me worse anyway. Since I had AS I tended to be too oblivious to social norms to know what should cause embarrassment). For me getting yelled at was usually enough to get the point across.

Physical punishment has never, and will never, work with my aspie teenage son. It only made, and makes, him all the angrier and he will get physical back before he can get ahold of himself and exercise control. What works with him is remaining calm, giving calm, clear explanations of what you're going to take away or otherwise do in the manner of punishment and why. That's always worked much better with him. One thing I find interesting is that he absolutely hates the "silent treatment", hates it. He can't handle it. Yelling and screaming at him doesn't work, either.

This has always been one of the major problems with his father and stepmother, among others. They just wouldn't listen as to how best to handle him and, consequently, cause much more of a problem than necessary by getting physical with and yelling at him.

Yelling and screaming at my brother also doesn't work with him. He was in his teens when he told my parents yelling doesn't do him any good because he doesn't like it, it's hard for him to listen to their words. It's like in Charlie Brown, "wa wa wa wa" every time the grown ups talk. That's what it's like for him when they yell at him. So every time my mother is mad at him, she talks to him in a nice normal tone of voice. It's hard for my mind to see that she is mad because to me yelling means mad. Talking nice means not mad. So when she is talking nice to my brother, I don't even know she is mad until she says she is.


This reminds me in second grade. I did something wrong in class and the kid from my class tells our speech therapist about it when we were there and the teacher starts talking about it. Then after it was time to go, I stay behind because I was told to and she asks me "Am I happy?" and I look at her face and say "yes." She keeps asking me if she is happy and I keep saying yes. She wasn't raising her voice so I assumed she was happy.

Can you post a Link please? Most of the pedos I know HATE corporal punishment and consider it child abuse. The Dutch pro-pedophile groups and the pedoparty have made statements about that.

And the pedos are right. there have been studies correlating corporal punishment and anger and crimes later on in life

EDIT: also lol @ people justifying BEATING you...erm "corporal punishment". Enjoy your screwed up childhood.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin5.htm#on



I would hit myself to gain experience and resistance to getting hit.




lol pwn, get better security than



Or you don't mess with their obsessions because it is THEIR stuff. lol 'Spoiled Brats'. DONT MESS WITH THEIR RESEARCH THEN.



you can tell those....people who believe that to STFU and it's THEIR fault for forcing that 'disipline' on you



...or they see the bs the whole society is made of and want to DESTROY IT ALL.



Then the alternate is dealing with strong authority and power, and 'showing' that power by wielding it in the form of discipline. "Making Examples" and all that. Arguably that's just as horrible and socially manipulating



n***a what? So the author should be shot because he doesn't want the parents to manipulate their children with BS sarcastic FAIL and voice modulations?



Why should there be an imposed social order or structure?



in the South Eastern and South Central US States. Also some of the lower Midwest. Yes people still beat their kids in public schools. And in private life. A significant portion of the US population is f****d up and when people try to pass anti-spanking laws f****d up people blatantly dare people to arrest them and throw them in jail.

I want the police to round up every one of those sick bastards and send them in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Ghetto ass b*****s, conservative bastards, etc. Kick in the black churches. Legalize all drugs and end the drug war, and abolish a bunch of other BS laws that are part of the same problem. there's room enough for them.

/rant

I dare them to explain how that will benefit a student they abuse like that?
Do they expect the child to suddenly become disciplined and to not leave any emotional scars? This stuff is just sickening.

I guess it's another reason for me to have little faith in the educational system.

"it's showing them who's the authority, and authrorities must be in charge fo society collapses and that's BADDDD"

or

"Authority is a good thing, this is the natural order for there to be social stratification, and we must preserve this social order as change without forethought is good, these traditions these exist is due to them being useful

or some other bs. whether Confucianism or Conservatism, societies force their bs on people. More like the majority forcing it on the fringe.




given the parents who whoop and holler and congratulate themselves for whipping their child's ass to the point of bleeding, yes it is supposed to scar them and make them FEAR authority.

HAHAHHSHS TIME TO DESTROY AUTHORITY!! SMASH IT ALL!!
I guess it's another reason for me to have little faith in the educational system.[/quote]

Hitting me left me no emotional scars. Once my mother told me when I was ten only grown ups can spank their kids, I stopped hitting people as a punishment. I was told I hit my mother a lot when I was 12 because I was always mad at her.

My shop teacher had a wooden paddle with 3/4" hole drilled in it. The rule was, if you were late for class you got a swat. Naturally the great "fun" was to have those not in the class hang onto the Aspie kid so he couldn't get to class on time and would get the swat. As you can probably guess, the kid that they kept attempting to keep from class was me...

In my opinion, it also gets nothing accomplished with NT kids. NT children are amazingly imitative. I can't tell you how many times I've heard of an NT child physically attacking classmates under the logic that "they needed to be punished".

On MANY occasions, I've seen parents spank children in public. The look in the parents' faces frightens me -- it's not the look of a teacher. It's anger. The parent is MAD and they are going to hurt someone -- their child. Often, though, it's more than just anger. I see a kind of recklessness -- a loss of control. It's disturbing to see.

In my opinion, corporal punishment is child abuse.

I attended Irish Catholic schools in the 70s, so yes, we got paddled, and that was the least of our worries!

Problem with corporal punishment and Aspies is that since it doesn't TEACH anything, and a lot of us have either a high tolerance for or simply don't feel certain types of pain, it's really pointless.

Also, on the topic of kids with AS becoming violent as a result of being physically punished, I do remember that becoming a problem with both me and my brother (who's also an Aspie) as children. Dad and teachers seemed to think this got results, so I guess we figured we could get the same results.

Do they paddle NT children as well?


This is disgusting.


The thing to do isn't to paddle the child, but take him out of school, since he clearly doesn't belong there.

I thought it was illegal to do this? It is truly disgusting indeed.

I remember when I was at school in the 80s, I was spinning on a carpet round and round. The teacher told me to stop. I was only like 5 at the time, anyhow I did it again. She took me over her knee and smacked me.... Was horrid and just plain wrong!

Yes they do it to NT kids too. Heck if I went to a school where kids get paddled, I would have been watching the other kids and every time they get sent to the office I would know "Yipes I better not do what they did." To me being, sent to the office would mean getting spanked.

In many European countries corporal punishment is even illegal in the home,not just school.
In the UK it's banned in school but there has been discussion about a wider ban.I know that
in Finland for example when children misbehave it's seen as a failure of society as a whole.

Physical punishment may be seen by some as effective in the short term but in the long term it can have a traumatic effect and in some cases lead the abused to become abuser when they
are older.