Are there any true geniuses here? (IQ over 155)

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Personally I think that IQ is an NT concept designed to test NT minds in a way that actually is subjective but claims to be objective. I have no idea what my IQ is. It could be 50 or 150. At least for me, it has no meaning.

How would a True Genius explain a Calabri Yao manifold to a mundane dullwit?

ruveyn

I get high IQ if the tests are mainly visual logic block design other wise i border on the low IQ range.

How did you learn about it?

I'm not shore about my IQ, but I've got a A* in both Math's and Science.

I promise you this. Your A in school will get you so much farther than your IQ result. But if you want an academic scholarship, I suggest you work on making sure you have as many A's in your other subjects as possible. You really can approach everything scientifically in this world, even art and gym. What grade are you in?

I am a dullwit numbskull or whatever and even I understand the general concept of the calabri-yau or whatever once I had a chance to read about it and to be honest it was pretty unenlightening.

I think the only way you can get a score that high is to take the Stanford-Binet as a kid, and even then development goes in stages so how high you score depends on when you take the test.

I tend to score at/near ceiling. I've scored 96th %ile and up on the GRE, and I scored 99th %ile and 145 on the two Mensa tests I took when I was 26. Scientists generally use the 99th %ile as their highest cutoff, and even then it's somewhat inaccurate, because the tests aren't designed for such high cutoffs. Tests are most accurate when used to divide groups down the middle.

I think online tests and HIQ tests are pretty shaky, but you can always just take them for fun. Here's a link:
http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/hard_iq.html

If you want to take an IQ test, Mensa has supervised tests, or you can take the GRE to see how high you get (about the top 10% of the general population, maybe) if regular tests aren't challenging enough and you want something properly normed.

It's interesting you say that as I always liked to take tests when I was a kid as I could do almost any kind of test really fast and this made me feel really good but then people said I didn't answer the questions right so I felt really stupid and embarassed about felling so good for doing what I though I was supposed to be doing in the first place so test taking which I used to enjoy became a very unpleasant thing for me as I was growing up.

Where'd you get that? I could've sworn that test would go up to the 180s... not accurately, but theoretically... Or am I just thinking of the childrens' version here? (Yeah, psych testing interests me. Current fascination: The MMPI.)

Anyway, yeah, I don't think genius has a lot to do with IQ, either, especially when there's autism in the mix.

Besides, think about it--your raw IQ is something you were pretty much born with. Spend a lot of time practicing puzzles and thinking skills and you'll probably edge it up by five to ten points, but what you got when you were born is what you'll have, generally. (Whether they can measure it accurately is another story. Lots of autie kids get low scores as little ones and then in adulthood score normal or normal-plus.)

So... you were born with it. What's the point of being proud of it? It's like being proud of having brown hair or being five feet six inches tall.

I can see being proud of your grades at school. You earned those. I can see being proud of writing a book or learning to play the piano or learning to speak Japanese. All that stuff takes work and it's something you did, not something that just got handed to you by the luck-of-the-draw in your DNA.

But, y'know, you've probably got as much right to be proud of getting your straight A's in your uni physics classes, as the Down Syndrome guy down the street has got a right to be proud of learning to balance his checkbook. Maybe he's got more right, even; I don't know. It's a matter of effort. I'll give him even more kudos if he has ADHD on top of it and has trouble putting out effort in the first place.

But IQ? You were born with it, you managed to get the IQ test to accurately reflect your problem-solving ability, and that's about it. It's not something you should expect anybody else to look up to you for.

Having a particularly high IQ does, I think, give you a responsibility to do something with it. Not everybody has that talent, and that means there's a limited number of people in the world with those resources, just like there's a limited number of people who can work disaster-relief, play pro football, or be foster parents. If you don't use it, it's lost to the world. If you don't contribute, somehow, where's the point of having a high IQ at all? You can't just sit and gloat and say "I'm sooo smart" and then not do anything with it. What you do with it is up to you, though. There's no good reason to force yourself into specifically intellectual pursuits, if that's not what you want to do. But whatever you do, just do something.

Having a high IQ is not an accomplishment. It's just a background factor that might help you with whatever you decide to set out to do.

I've taken that one a couple of times. I call it the what you see is what you get test as I can't remember it's name (wysiwyg). I once got up to 105 after several attempts becasue it was important to get accepted into a program that I was interested in but it was really hard and basically I memorized the tests (there are several variations I think).

Before we forget what we are talking about, let me say that true genius only needs an average IQ, as imagination and creativity are also very important.

You can learn things fast, but in order to be a genius you need to solve problems, it is not only about copying and understanding what you are taught.

Here's a link to a page on creativity and personality:

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Crea ... ality.html

AS supposedly enhances conscientiousness and the associative horizon: components in genius, along with ability.

Today has been so busy that I fogot to come back to this thread. I guess that in some respects I am a genius since i can do some things that are considered to be very unusual and needed by certain people but on the ohter hand I am not smart at all and basically quite going to school around the middle of the third grade and even after being forcibly complelled to attend I quite going at the start of the fourth grade. My official IQ is around 80 on regular tests and 105 on special tests for people like me.
You know I'm sorry but I forgot what the subject of this post was all about so I have to come back to it after I make this post.

Garyww, it's an interesting essay. Instead of abstract numbers it puts genius into words. Genius is:

1. Ability- Specific abilities are learnt skills including painting, writing, sculpting. General abilities include numerical or spatial insight, intelligence, or musical aptitude and are inborn.
My personal favorite is writing.

2. Conscientiousness- Consists of traits like persistence, accuracy, dependability, self-discipline, diligence, and punctuality. All needed to develop your ability.

3. Associative horizon - Concerns divergent or lateral thinking, mental flexibility, fluency of association, non-conformism, humour, or individuality (resistance to various outside pressures like socialization). These traits provide the "spark" that causes work to be "original", they allow one to see what others miss, to think what none have thought before. Associative horizon is not easy and perhaps impossible to improve, but does relate to one's mental state and health, and is influenced by medication.

The one I have most is associative horizon, known as eccentricity.
All these together in one person makes them a genius.