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05 Sep 2010, 7:06 am

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Its also just plain not good for the animals. Seriously, Punkycat, listen to what Delirium is saying, this is good information. If you really care about meerkats, and other animals, then you would oppose the trade of exotic pets. Meerkats do not belong locked in a cage in someone's living room, they belong in the South African wild, among their own kind.


Delirium is being a bully. Meerkats are my main special intrest and I think I would be more than qualified to have one of my own.


No, I'm telling you why having a meerkat as a pet is a bad idea. Not only do they belong in the wild, but pet meerkats are traded illegally and end up being completely miserable in their new homes. You can love your pet meerkat all you want, but it would far prefer to be in the wild with other meerkats. Also, you might even be breaking a law by having one.

Just because you like meerkats doesn't mean you're qualified to have one as a pet. You need an exotic animal license to keep one as a pet in the United States, and you can't just walk into a government office and demand that they give you a license. It's really, really hard to get one.


It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?



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05 Sep 2010, 9:39 am

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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


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05 Sep 2010, 6:24 pm

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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


BS! If someone with AS has a special intrest in something, they ARE an expert. Meerkats are my special intrest. The majority of pet meerkats in the UK come from breeders and what if a meerkat is disabled and cannot return to the wild? Do you think it's a good idea to release birds with amputated limbs back into the wild? Instead of basicaly being prisioners like most disabled animals are, why couldn't one be someone's pampered pet? Zoos have meerkats and most zoos do not know a God damb thing about them. If the zoos can have them and not know anything, why can't someone who knows practicaly everything there is to know about meerkats?


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05 Sep 2010, 6:52 pm

PunkyKat wrote:
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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


BS! If someone with AS has a special intrest in something, they ARE an expert. Meerkats are my special intrest. The majority of pet meerkats in the UK come from breeders and what if a meerkat is disabled and cannot return to the wild? Do you think it's a good idea to release birds with amputated limbs back into the wild? Instead of basicaly being prisioners like most disabled animals are, why couldn't one be someone's pampered pet? Zoos have meerkats and most zoos do not know a God damb thing about them. If the zoos can have them and not know anything, why can't someone who knows practicaly everything there is to know about meerkats?


1. You're not an expert just because you've read about something. I've read a ton of books on Islam, but I'm not an expert. I've just read a lot about it.
2. Actually, most meerkats are taken from the wild. It's almost impossible to breed meerkats in captivity, since the mothers either abort their fetuses or kill the babies. Living in captivity really takes a toll on them.
3. If a meerkat is disabled and can't go to the wild, it should go to a zoo or a sanctuary for meerkats. The people who work at the zoos and sanctuaries are trained in handling meerkats. Most people who work there have zoology/biology degrees (or are about to get degrees in those fields) and have taken courses in handling exotic animals.
4. I can't believe you're in your twenties and you're throwing an e-tantrum because you can't have a meerkat. Stop acting like Veruca Salt and grow up.


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05 Sep 2010, 7:18 pm

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About meerkats....that's discouraging news (@Delirium) but, on the upside, it's a dream so we can imagine the virtual meerkats will be happy in their own fancy and suitable biome. I say, bring on the meerkats :)
Yeah, the whole mansion thing isn't going to really exist anyways, so for what it's worth, we could have a room full of elephants brushing up on their literature, with monocles, with a nice cup of tea, wearing sophisticated lavish clothing, and talking like they're fancy Englishmen. Oh, and they're the waiters, serving gourmet meals every breakfast, lunch, dinner, taking care of the cleaning of the mansion, and heck, they built the place.

So (Delirium) don't crash others' dreams here... it isn't really worth the effort or time anyways.


... Huh, Butler Elephants. There's an idea.



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05 Sep 2010, 9:29 pm

Delirium wrote:
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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


Now you're playing with my delirium. There are some positives like spreading the species around in case wild populations get wiped out from a catastrophe. This report was quite interesting. http://www.katani.hopto.org/btec/lessons/unit%207%20anihealthwelfbehav/welfare/CAWCNDAreport.pdf



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05 Sep 2010, 9:37 pm

Dnuos wrote:
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About meerkats....that's discouraging news (@Delirium) but, on the upside, it's a dream so we can imagine the virtual meerkats will be happy in their own fancy and suitable biome. I say, bring on the meerkats :)
Yeah, the whole mansion thing isn't going to really exist anyways, so for what it's worth, we could have a room full of elephants brushing up on their literature, with monocles, with a nice cup of tea, wearing sophisticated lavish clothing, and talking like they're fancy Englishmen. Oh, and they're the waiters, serving gourmet meals every breakfast, lunch, dinner, taking care of the cleaning of the mansion, and heck, they built the place.

So (Delirium) don't crash others' dreams here... it isn't really worth the effort or time anyways.


... Huh, Butler Elephants. There's an idea.


Um...You're' quoting me on something I didn't write. Just need to point that out.



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05 Sep 2010, 9:47 pm

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Dnuos wrote:
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About meerkats....that's discouraging news (@Delirium) but, on the upside, it's a dream so we can imagine the virtual meerkats will be happy in their own fancy and suitable biome. I say, bring on the meerkats :)
Yeah, the whole mansion thing isn't going to really exist anyways, so for what it's worth, we could have a room full of elephants brushing up on their literature, with monocles, with a nice cup of tea, wearing sophisticated lavish clothing, and talking like they're fancy Englishmen. Oh, and they're the waiters, serving gourmet meals every breakfast, lunch, dinner, taking care of the cleaning of the mansion, and heck, they built the place.

So (Delirium) don't crash others' dreams here... it isn't really worth the effort or time anyways.


... Huh, Butler Elephants. There's an idea.


Um...You're' quoting me on something I didn't write. Just need to point that out.
Weird, I was trying to quote LabPet's post (where I got the post from)... guess I'll fix that... :oops:



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05 Sep 2010, 9:53 pm

^ It's okay :)



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05 Sep 2010, 10:10 pm

Delirium wrote:
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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


BS! If someone with AS has a special intrest in something, they ARE an expert. Meerkats are my special intrest. The majority of pet meerkats in the UK come from breeders and what if a meerkat is disabled and cannot return to the wild? Do you think it's a good idea to release birds with amputated limbs back into the wild? Instead of basicaly being prisioners like most disabled animals are, why couldn't one be someone's pampered pet? Zoos have meerkats and most zoos do not know a God damb thing about them. If the zoos can have them and not know anything, why can't someone who knows practicaly everything there is to know about meerkats?


1. You're not an expert just because you've read about something. I've read a ton of books on Islam, but I'm not an expert. I've just read a lot about it.
2. Actually, most meerkats are taken from the wild. It's almost impossible to breed meerkats in captivity, since the mothers either abort their fetuses or kill the babies. Living in captivity really takes a toll on them.
3. If a meerkat is disabled and can't go to the wild, it should go to a zoo or a sanctuary for meerkats. The people who work at the zoos and sanctuarites are trained in handling animals. Most people who work there have zoology/biology degrees (or are about to get degrees in those fields) and have taken courses in handling those animals.
4. I can't believe you're in your twenties and you're throwing an e-tantrum because you can't have a meerkat. Stop acting like Veruca Salt and grow up.


What makes someone qualifed to care for a certian animal? Is it years of schooling or exprience? There are meerkat santuaries out there run by people who have no degrees what so ever. How does reading books and filling in blanks prepare someone for caring for a certian species in real life? I may never be able to finish high school, let alone college because of anxiety issues and various learning disabilites. I could spend 10 years in univerisity studying thick books and not know Jack s**t about meerkats. It takes expirence to know how to do something and how is someone supposed to get that expirence if no one will give them the chance? It's people like you who make life so hard for people like me. Who are you really? Are you from Lilymud or the Ponyland Catfights? Even if you aren't, you are being a troll. You are the one who needs to grow up.


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05 Sep 2010, 10:55 pm

Delirium wrote:
PunkyKat wrote:
Delirium wrote:
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It's offensive to suggest Punky would trade Meerkats illegally, lock them in cages and not bother to get a license. Assuming she doesn't break the law, who are you to judge?


It's not her specifically. If anybody gets a pet meerkat, they're supporting something illegal. Pet meerkats are taken from the wild and sold to pet stores or individuals, which is against the law and is harmful to the wild meerkat population. Some animals just belong in the wild, and meerkats are one of those animals.


BS! If someone with AS has a special intrest in something, they ARE an expert. Meerkats are my special intrest. The majority of pet meerkats in the UK come from breeders and what if a meerkat is disabled and cannot return to the wild? Do you think it's a good idea to release birds with amputated limbs back into the wild? Instead of basicaly being prisioners like most disabled animals are, why couldn't one be someone's pampered pet? Zoos have meerkats and most zoos do not know a God damb thing about them. If the zoos can have them and not know anything, why can't someone who knows practicaly everything there is to know about meerkats?


1. You're not an expert just because you've read about something. I've read a ton of books on Islam, but I'm not an expert. I've just read a lot about it.
2. Actually, most meerkats are taken from the wild. It's almost impossible to breed meerkats in captivity, since the mothers either abort their fetuses or kill the babies. Living in captivity really takes a toll on them.
3. If a meerkat is disabled and can't go to the wild, it should go to a zoo or a sanctuary for meerkats. The people who work at the zoos and sanctuarites are trained in handling animals. Most people who work there have zoology/biology degrees (or are about to get degrees in those fields) and have taken courses in handling those animals.
4. I can't believe you're in your twenties and you're throwing an e-tantrum because you can't have a meerkat. Stop acting like Veruca Salt and grow up.


Such a horrible thing to say!



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06 Sep 2010, 12:17 am

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You're wrong, the emperor is wearing such wonderful clothes! :wink:


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06 Sep 2010, 9:17 am

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What makes someone qualifed to care for a certian animal? Is it years of schooling or exprience? There are meerkat santuaries out there run by people who have no degrees what so ever. How does reading books and filling in blanks prepare someone for caring for a certian species in real life? I may never be able to finish high school, let alone college because of anxiety issues and various learning disabilites. I could spend 10 years in univerisity studying thick books and not know Jack sh** about meerkats. It takes expirence to know how to do something and how is someone supposed to get that expirence if no one will give them the chance? It's people like you who make life so hard for people like me. Who are you really? Are you from Lilymud or the Ponyland Catfights? Even if you aren't, you are being a troll. You are the one who needs to grow up.


Honey, you're the one throwing a tantrum when I point out why meerkats make terrible pets. I don't want to derail the thread any further, so can we please take this to private messaging? Just click the "PM" button below my name.

And back on topic, I want a room that's basically one big bouncy castle, and a room full of stuff to make music with would be pretty rad as well.


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06 Sep 2010, 9:45 am

Lets build a ball park and have these cute little uniforms that are skirts with shorts under them.



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06 Sep 2010, 10:55 am

This is a great idea. We could get a mansion in Los Angeles so the weather would always be good.


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06 Sep 2010, 11:05 am

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This is a great idea. We could get a mansion in Los Angeles so the weather would always be good.


Oh, no way :) I'm thinking cool/brisk weather with snowy winters. I know - we could have each space climate controlled.


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