What age did you realize that you were "different"

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30 Apr 2011, 1:50 pm

I think I might have started realizing how different I was at around 14 years old. I just knew something was really different about me, then. I did ~ (fairly ok) socially, but kept more to myself. (I did have one good friend, then, who has told me recently he thought he might be slightly Autistic, himself...)



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30 Apr 2011, 4:32 pm

I can't definitively state an EXACT age as I've faced issues and situations that contributed to my "uniqueness" since birth. Until I was about five or six, I had severe (and at times quite frequent) grand mal seizures. My elementary school at the time had no other children attending who had seizures so in pre-K and kindergarten I was not only shunned by my peers, they were frightened by me. So began my inferiority complex... I recall (somewhat vaguely) my visits to the hospital having my brain examined, the Q-tips with the goo in my hair, but while epilepsy was ruled out, my seizures remained undiagnosed. This occurred in 1985, before the diagnosis of Asperger's was introduced in America. Obviously I showed enough normality to not be considered autistic at that time. As I progressed through elementary my grand mals faded away but I would get "twitchy" when subjected to stressful environments. I recall frequent visits with the school guidance councilor, Ms. Gesch, who became one of my few good friends. She always told me I was a "tough cookie", "super-smart", and I was "special and I don't mean special-ed".... While the concept of "it's good to be different" was consistently drilled into my head, I didn't understand the logic. I understood that EVERYONE was different-- appearance and personality-- but I never could grasp as to why I so so exponentially different. Being the "little guy" I was never a choice team player. To this day I have practically zero interest in team sports, save for baseball, which is barely a fleeting interest (I obsessed on baseball cards from age 6 or so until I turned 17).



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30 Apr 2011, 5:49 pm

The day I started Nursery. I was three.



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30 Apr 2011, 5:57 pm

Around 5 or 6, when I started school. I went to daycare, but the daycare only had 5 or 6 kids in it and only one of them was around my age. In preschool, I just assumed that the kids who had played together had met somewhere else. (I had met the only kid I knew at daycare).

However, when I got to school, about a week into another kid called me a "crybaby". That's when I figured it out.

Until, about Grade 2 or 3, I thought that the OTHERS kids were the "strange" ones. I thought they had special abilities. :lol:


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30 Apr 2011, 6:01 pm

I just remembered going through a period as a child where I wondered if everyone but me could read minds.

That seems a bit to the point. But I mean, I wondered if people were literally telepathic. Comic books taught me they were not.



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30 Apr 2011, 6:56 pm

From the time when I started infant school at the age of nearly 5 I knew I wasn't like the other children, I just wasn't one of them. I was scared of the other children and didn't have a clue how to play with them. I also had what I now realise is selective mutism and didn't speak at school for about the first 2 years I was there. That made me stand out too, it also made me a target for bullies. They knew they could do whatever they liked to me and I wouldn't hit back or tell anyone.

That feeling that I was different and that I was just not normal in any way grew stronger as I grew older, especially by the age of around 9 or 10 when I started to really want to have friends and to fit in but wasn't able to. I was physically awkward, couldn't throw or catch a ball and the other children used to say I 'ran funny'. This made PE lessons absolute torture for me, and it was yet another barrier to social integration at playtimes because a lot of playground games involve running, throwing, catching, the very things that I couldn't do.


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30 Apr 2011, 7:49 pm

Some time shortly before 4 years old, and starting school just made it easier to see. (and easier for other school kids to see too, unfortunately :roll: )
Quite the picky, difficult little professor; always have been.
My parents never knew - they did their best, bless 'em, but it was mostly criticism and lecturing. No other adults seemed to care.
Just one teacher, through all my schooldays, understood at least part of what was going on (there were no descriptions for any of this stuff back then) and she actively encouraged my 'information hoovering' and fed it.
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30 Apr 2011, 7:58 pm

AllieKat wrote:
For adults like myself who grew up undiagnosed, at what age did you realize that you were "different" from the other kids? As a small child, when I was placed in emotionally disturbed classes in first grade, I didn't realize I was any different than the other kids. I just thought I was going to a special school where I got a lot more attention and did a lot of fun stuff. I also was oblivious to the other kids around me until about age 8 and had no idea others perceived me differently than I perceived myself until I was in my early teens.

Most NT kids start playing actively with other kids around 3ish and are aware of the difference between how they should behave with their peers on the school playground as opposed to when they are with just their parents at home by first or second grade.

I would say it really hit me that I was different around fourth grade when my parents tried to mainstream me after spending 2.5 years in special ed for emotionally disturbed kids. By that time, I WANTED to fit in with other girls my age but had no idea how and was constantly ridiculed both by classmates and teachers for stuff I was doing that I had no idea was wrong.

I would also say the realization came sudden like a "ton of bricks" rather than slowly over time.

What was your childhood experience in this area?

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I knew I was different by about 5yo. Who knows, maybe I suspected around 11 months or so. But I never would have suspected that I had a syndrome. When I was about 6 or 7yo. it seemed like everyone in my grade was asking me about tests, etc... About that time, maybe as late as 7, I found that I wasn't interested in fighting or sports. It seemed others were, And I was bullied.

You are a special case, given what you say here. If you were normal, and in SE, you might have learned bad things.



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30 Apr 2011, 8:21 pm

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Even if public education had been able to serve my needs, my family life would have sabotaged it. We moved around so much I went to 20 different schools before graduating from high school, so even if we had managed to find a good program for me, we would have moved again, and I would have had to leave it. My childhood sucked.
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WOW, I thought I had it bad. I only had EIGHT schools, and I think about ten moves, I moved to one school twice. BTW in case people are curious, there are 12 grades, and I was in nursery school and kindergarten, so you could say I was there for 15 years. 8 different schools.

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I once attended a school that followed the system you describe. A child could be in third grade but working on first grade reading and fourth grade math, with each student progressing among the levels at his/her own pace. Each student had took a pre-test to determine level placement in the individual subjects, and then according to the pre-test scores, they had a "contract" with assignments to complete before advancing to the next level. Teachers taught, but it was up to the student to do the work. I wish more schools did it that way.


That is close to how I have been saying it should be done since I was SIX!! !! !! !! ! That was over 40 years ago. I went to one school that at least had a reading/writing system that ran through all the grades. I wish they had it for math.



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30 Apr 2011, 8:52 pm

Around 4 or 5


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30 Apr 2011, 9:12 pm

I was having issues with socially interacting in grammar school, looking back it was dependent on who was in charge and I did not understand a lot of it at the time.



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30 Apr 2011, 9:16 pm

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Well, to solve that conundrum, then I arbitrarily declare the severity of ones aspergers is more correlated with ones 'social inclination' than social awareness. There, that solves everything. :P


Ha. :P

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It doesn't take a great amount of social awareness to notice that everyone is talking to each other except you, and that while most people seem to like hanging around with other people, you like to go to the library. It also doesn't take much to tell that people seem to enjoy engaging in conversation that bores and confuses you- either that or they're stupid, because they do it all the time. It's just simple comparison and contrast.


Autism/Aspergers isn't the only reason why one would have that experience, would it? It seems quite plausible that fairly NT high IQ types could experience that much the same and/or anyone with severe communication deficits.

I'm asking that because that sounds eerily similar to large tracts of my growing up, but my parents are both clearly NT and if aspergers is largely hereditary, it would seem quite a puzzle how I would've obtained aspergers and/or had severe expressions of autistic traits. Maybe some get lucky in the game of genetic roulette?


Social problems are common in those with high IQs. I've read that the difference is that their social problems tend to disappear when they are around people of similar intelligence, whereas with AS the social problems tend to stay around in most situations.
And yeah, I'm sure that severe communication deficits would do it; receptive language disorders in particular I'd think would produce that feeling of something going on that one isn't quite getting.
Despite what people say, AS isn't just a matter of not being social or of "NTs are mean to me!"; you have to look at the whole picture to determine if you have it.

Is there anything that could be considered autism-like in the earlier generations of your family?


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Who_Am_I wrote:
Social problems are common in those with high IQs. I've read that the difference is that their social problems tend to disappear when they are around people of similar intelligence, whereas with AS the social problems tend to stay around in most situations.


In eighth grade, I was one of two students at my school selected to go to a math camp over the summer, with two kids apiece from other area schools. There were about 16 to 20 of us; can't remember exactly. The purpose was to see how advanced a level we could understand, so the math we were taught at the camp was at least college level, and we all aced it. I was among students of similar IQ, but still socially inept, still felt like a fish out of water. My lack of athletic ability was still my undoing, and of course the most popular kids were good at both math *and* volleyball. Although these kids were not rude and mean to me, as kids at school had been, I didn't make any friends. The only reason that the other kid from my school was in contact with me for several years after that camp, was because our *mothers* became close friends.


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01 May 2011, 11:48 am

I was 5 years old and had started going to school when I realized just how different I really was from others. I was either labelled as an underachieving slacker or someone who had some kind of antisocial behavioral problems. Funny thing was that when I transferred schools when I was about 7, that's when the maltreatment by others started and it didn't really let up for until I was in my 2nd year at community college. Living in a rural hamlet town in a predominately "redneck" county meant that I already had a scarlet letter on me because of how "different" I was.



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01 May 2011, 1:28 pm

my mom was a bit of a curebie and took me to all these specailists and doctors and big hospitals...all kinds of tests were run on me some were painful and invasive others were just boring...this began when I was about 6-7 years old and I started to realize that other girls did not like me and often told me to go away. I started really feeling "off" when I was 8-9 years old....of course I was chasing other kids on all fours and barking at them and chasing boys with a willow branch to whip them into being my boyfriend (like that would work :roll: ) I really had no idea how to socailize with other kids and this became really obvious in jr high cause the other kids started gathering around in groups to talk...(why the hell do they want to do that for?!?) I then retreated into myself wearing all black and hiding in the bathroom during breaks because of total shutdowns as to how to handle "talking".
Being isolated, I was an easy target for bullies and so nieve I had no idea what they were saying to me.
One guy asked me..."are you a virgin?" I shouted....NO I AM NOT! because I thought it was a bad word. So then they called me all these other names like h*re, sl*t etc etc...I had no idea what that meant either but I did notice that no one wanted anything to do with me.

Once I got in high school, I learned to be a bad@ss to protect myself but that kept me in trouble most of the time
at 19 years old, I gave up the bad routine to go find who I really was because I spent so much time being someone else that I had no idea who I was. Then inbetween colleges, I discovered temple grandin on tv and what she said about how her thought processes were uncannily fit mine and I realized that I had autism. So I tell my mom....and she said, I knew that...you were diagnosed when you were 8 years old but I did not want to label you. However it would have made other things make alot more sense...if I was "labeled" expecially to know that I was not the world's one and only "weirdo".


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01 May 2011, 1:40 pm

i started pondering and wondering at age 4 and i was certain i was different at age 5.