Should underemployment be considered as a lifestyle choice?

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You need to ask society in general as it was society's perception of the situation that I was trying to explain, not my own.

There were enough Americans baying for blood in the wake of 9/11 - ask them what they think about people fighting for their country - these are the types I was referring to.

Why do people always insist on conflating what a person posts with it being their own personal view?

I personally have recently lent money to a friend who isn't coping well financially and I got a completely disrespectful attitude in return for my troubles so please don't lecture me about the need to be generous to others.

Well you are the one who posted it so I didn't realize it was something you disagreed with...and considering my terrible social skills I think going around asking random people I don't know what they think of people fighting for their country isn't one of my top priorities.

And I guess I didn't see an indication that it was not your own personal view so I assumed it to be.

If Russia invaded America though and everyone was told they needed to help out with the war effort, which might entail killing Russians, what would you do?

Well I highly doubt Russia is going to invade America.......so I find the question rather irrelevant. Even in that situation don't think I'd join the military because I wouldn't be able to kill people just because I've been told to.

It's a hypothetical question

And it's not a matter of having been told to kill others either. During a war, civilians can often get drawn into life or death situations whereby it's a case of kill or be killed

So you'd prefer to be killed than kill another person I take it?

I'd try to survive

If I was in a life or death situation I imagine I'd try to do my best to survive it.......not sure I'd succeed. But yeah I mean I cannot say what my exact response would be since I find the hypothetical question rather far fetched.

Not sure where I said or indicated I'd prefer to be killed than kill in self defense or defense of say someone close to me. I obviously would not jump into these life or death situations though as I prefer to stay out of war zones you know.......just not big on killing people don't see what is wrong with that.

Why do people assume if you don't like the idea of killing people instead of trying to survive you would prefer to be killed?

Because I was trying to determine at what stage self-interest would kick in, if it did.

You implied that wanting to fight for your country wasn't a good thing. While I wouldn't actively choose to do it and don't think wars are a good idea, I admire those that do give up their lives for their country as it's a brave thing to do.

I don't see where I implied that but ok....my point was like fighting for your country is basically for the greater good of the whole country ideally correct? So I was pointing out having programs to help the poor and disabled is just as important when it comes to 'serving' ones country. So why people b***h and moan about things like SSI is an interesting question indeed.

But while on the topic I just have to say dying in the military does not necessarily translate to having died for ones country in that honorable sense you speak of. Its not like the only reason the the U.S involves its military in the world is for the good of this country but that's making things a bit complicated for this particular discussion I feel.

Ultimately, people don't care about the government "redistributing wealth" as long as said wealth is being distributed towards things they personally approve of. My favorite is college kids bash "welfare," but who don't see a problem filling out FAFSA forms and getting free college money.

Oh, and military spending just has better marketing.

But I hear they have to pay it all back unless they had grants.

It depends on what happens to you financially after you get your degree. I mean if you can't afford to pay it back they cant exactly get it back from you. That is one reason dropping out of college sucks.

Yes, grants don't have to be paid back, but you can also get interest-free loans.

Furthermore, it's not unusual for people to just default on their loans, in which case, the government gets squat in terms of repayment.

Of course, the government wouldn't give me either so I had to sign a piece of paper committing myself to four years of military service to get my "free college money."

I am sure some people would find me a drain to society because I refuse to put myself into debt from college. I have seen people say online they are still paying off their student loans from when they went to school. I hat owing money and it stresses me out. I have seen people say online that people should go back to school to get a better education so they can get a higher paying job and not be on any welfare or foodstamps or WIC, etc. or else you're "abusing" it. But what happens if you have a disability and are not smart enough for college? My youngest brother tried going but couldn't do it and he is NT. Another person I know at work tried going but couldn't complete English because the teacher kept telling her "this isn't an essay" when she would write one so she was unable to get her degree all because she couldn't pass that class so she feels she wasted her time going. My sister in law went back to school because she thought it be better for her kids and it was to get off welfare but instead she is unemployed and is now over qualified to work at places like fast foods or supermarkets because no one will hire her and now my in laws support her financially because she got into trouble with welfare for not going to job training. She didn't go because she was going to school full time. Going to school and getting a degree does not mean you will find a job and make more money. Even some NTs are unable to go to college. I don't know if they all had a disability or not. My brother has been having problems in school since 6th grade. That's when I started to notice it and I just thought then he was being lazy and careless which is ironic of me. I remmeber thinking then what if it were to turn out he had a learning disability and it was finally being noticed because the work just got harder but the way he was handling it made me think he was being lazy because he handled it differently than I did. He did okay before and then all of a sudden he wasn't doing okay? One of the problems was the teacher he had so tons of students had problems with her and she got fired eventually. But his problems still continued. He is doing better now and takes medicine now and is training to be an appraiser like our dad.