Do aspie males have a harder time than aspie females ?

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You could say that about black people, homeless people, the list goes on.

But I must say that if you have any sort of disorder to do with the brain people can't cope with it, and think it's all in your head. The brain is an organ too, we are wired differently right down to the organs.

People are a pack of ignorant freaks, but nothing will make them see the light. Life's not fair, and it never ever will be.

What keeps me going is the fact that they might get hardships on their next time around.

When it comes to blacks, are you referring to the US, Austrailia, or New Zeland?



What do you mean by next time around? Reincarnation?

Society is too harsh to every possible minority. But their is a difference in the amount of persecution if they actually know about the minority. With black people, discrimination appears to be decreasing as black culture is becoming far more popular. While with the homeless, as their culture is largely unknown they are still persecuted quite a lot like us.

In most parts of America, the homeless that are genuinely down on their luck are getting better treatment than in years past and it's the drunks and junkies that hide the improvements from the public. The blacks on the other hand, have had every opportunity for equal rights affordable by law given to them without giving them (too much) special treatment. From what I've observed, if they took the time they spend complaining about "injustices" and usede for a job search, many of them would be making average middle class wages. I don't know exactly how to explain this, but they have this culture of apathy instilled in them from their ancestors that causes them to have low expectations in life. It does create a ghetto subculture and it's spread has a destructive effect on civilized society as well as cause all the rhetoric about race relation problems.

/me believing in the Theory of Evolution etc, /me thinks it is animal nature to fear the "stranger"-- the different one-- even in our own communities. /me thinks it is horrible now to do this, but it served a practical function in less primitive times for aiding in survival (not that we're terribly unprimitive now, but...)

/me thinks if humans knew why they thought such ways, they might stop thinking such things.

Just a pondering /me had.

Sean, your viewpoint strikes me as that of one who has lived a rather comfortable and sheltered life (aside from having AS). I think it is always easier to bemoan our own fates while criticizng other for not making the best of things. Have you ever been homeless? Or black? Life is not as cut and dried or as black and white as I used to think it was.....

FWIW, this is becoming very hard for a person of any race without a college education to achieve. If you do not even have a *decent* high school education, you can look in vain...you will find mostly entry level jobs in factories and food establishments. In some parts of the country, farm labor can be found. Basically, you have to have expereince or a degree or connections, and even then, if you're homeless or a minority, you might lose out. (In fact, if you're homeless, you can just forget about it!)

And women still make less money than guys do, on average.

Interesting.... I like the sounds of needing a degree.

Sean my sister is black ...now i am not but she is half black witch to a an employer might as well be black. i have seen rascim first hand in the work place its not just bad where i live its horrible. of corse my city is the worse city in american of more then 100000 people for wage differance bettween minoraty and caucasion so i may not have good prespective on other parts of the contry

WHAT THE HELL? HOW CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH RACIAL DISCRIMINATION? BURN THE RACIST PIGS! KILL THEM ALL!

Huh. I can't work for reasons unrelated to a degree, but I didn't realize my high school equivalency thing wouldn't be enough if I could work. That's kind of depressing. (It's probably physical labor I'd be interested in if my health were better; that was the only job I could really do consistently before.)

Actually I don't think my support staff has a degree. But she makes crappy wages, despite doing complex and important work and doing it well.

Then again, them joining gangs and buying crack with their welfare checks isn't doing anything to improve their situation and I have seen this side of society before. Here in Southern California, there are too many blacks to not give them equal consideration for a job.

At least you earned it for yourself.

Last edited by Sean on 23 May 2005, 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

"The blacks" ?

I think it depends more on the individual person who has the disroder, than it does, Gender.

Well out of all the groups mentioned in this thread, you are singling out blacks for some reason. I don't like what your statements are saying Sean.

Problems that are in certain communities are intertangled for generations.
If you think you have all the answers for this problem which is world wide and race ignorant, go and fix it! You will be famous because no one else has figured it out yet.
The main problem is the CULTURE differences. These are not the problem but the core of where the problems arise. We as ASD should be some of the first to understand this.

BURN THE RACISTS! KILL THE RACISTS! ALL RACISTS MUST DIE! EVEN ASPIE RACISTS!

I think it should be. A G.E.D. has a score and percentile rank, unlike a diploma (I think, I've never seen a diploma, I have a G.E.D.).

It is enough for some jobs, just not any of the "average middle class jobs" that Sean is talking about. If by an average middle class job, he means: working in a chicken or steel factory, or as a boxboy in a grocery store, or at Mc Donald's, or field labor, then it's more than adequate. These jobs are not what I think of as Middle Class.

I could not even get a job as a librarian! I don't have a degree. I *was* able to get a job as a worker with disabled people.

Sean, how about this: you go to a job service site and list or link to some middle class jobs available to people with a high school education or less and no experience. Because frankly, I'd like to find one!