Do aspie males have a harder time than aspie females ?

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23 May 2005, 4:34 pm

chamoisee wrote:
I think it should be. A G.E.D. has a score and percentile rank, unlike a diploma (I think, I've never seen a diploma, I have a G.E.D.).


I have a diploma-like thing from my CHSPE, which I took. I didn't take the GED. The CHSPE (California High School Proficiency Exam) measures mostly basic arithmetic and reading skills.

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I could not even get a job as a librarian! I don't have a degree. I *was* able to get a job as a worker with disabled people.


I know someone who took that kind of job because, right after being released from a state institution, that was the only people who would take her on as an employee. (She later got fired for telling the truth about what was happening to a client.) And my current staff may have her GED but nothing else I think (not sure if she has her GED or not, she dropped out of high school to help her family or something).

I think you could get a job as a library technician, but not a librarian. Librarian seems to require a degree in library science. Library technicians shelve books and stuff and I think you can get that without a degree.


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23 May 2005, 5:21 pm

Truck Drivers that are Teamster members, Operating Engineers (heavy equipment operators), and Longshoremen all make good money. My neighbor is a Truck Driver and a member of the Teamsters and he makes at least $65,000 a year. He does not have a Diploma or a GED.



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23 May 2005, 8:42 pm

In St. Louis, and this might go for other places as well, one is required to be at least of junior standing in a post-secondary school to be a librarian. The library technicians don't have this requirement.

And like to say, generally the poor do not CHOOSE to be poor. Whatever it may seem, people usually do not choose to be poor. And anyone who thinks that poverty is a choice probably has never been poor themselves. Mostly, if you are born poor, you stay poor. Those are the statistics, because you know nothing else. Yes, I'm sure there are examples of people who have escaped such a life, but this is an incredibly small percentage. Be born poor, grow up poor, and then say it is easy to get out of it.


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23 May 2005, 10:54 pm

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BURN THE RACISTS! KILL THE RACISTS! ALL RACISTS MUST DIE! EVEN ASPIE RACISTS!
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Are you refering to me? What did I say that's racist?



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23 May 2005, 11:55 pm

Trucking isn't exactly a middle class job. My ex husband was a long haul trucker, and we didn't live particularly well. Basically we paid the rent and bills, got food, and that was about it. His food expenses were higher since he was eating on the road all the time. He certainly didn't make 67 K and we definitely weren't middle class by any stretch of the imagination.

At any rate, I grew up in the ghettoes of inner city Chicago. I was in the minority, being (mostly) white. I have a first hand knowledge of black people (as well as hispanics) and the stereotype which you are projecting simply is not true across the board. The black people that I saw were working their tails off just to put their kids into a good private school so that they would have a better chance at life. They are hardly the losers that you describe them as. Black people *do* work, but to assume that any person, regardless of color or education, can just get right up and apply for a mddle class job and lifestyle and get it is absurd. It is not that easy. I got very, very burned out on elitism once I was at the receiving end of it and saw things from that side. Perhaps you also should try living on the streets and eating in soup kitchens for a while, see how eager people are to hire you?

If we want to talk about druggies and crackheads, all the ones that I see here are white. :roll:



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24 May 2005, 12:22 am

Frankly it doesn't matter what colour or gender they are. Now that we've covered both these issues, shall we move onto Ageism?

Oooh those NAUGHTY old people! SPANK the elderly!



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24 May 2005, 1:09 am

Oh well........ Pensioners are darn creepy sometimes. But they are mostly okay.


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24 May 2005, 9:12 am

Old people: what really bothers me is when their offspring treat them as though they are children and nothing that they say is taken seriously (even if it is valid). It infuriates me to watch this, very hard to keep my mouth shut! I am not talking about people with Alzheimers, just those who are merely older. The condescendion.....oooh..... :evil: Even if the parent *is* getting senile, I feel that they should/could still be treated with some respect, they are still the parent and shouldn't be talked down to.



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25 May 2005, 12:23 am

I agree. It is damn annoying and sickening to here of children abusing their parents when their parents are pensioners. That should be punished severely! Some pensioners may be creepy, but the rest are awesome. Such as Roy from archery!


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25 May 2005, 12:40 am

/me thinks 'tis American and other Western cultures that usually throw away the old-timers these days. There are some communities/cultures where the old are actually cherished and looked up to. Kinda like the old wise men in stories, though a little more reality-based.


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25 May 2005, 12:43 am

Western society sucks. I say I should make the rules with my elite council......


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25 May 2005, 12:51 am

The ants?


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25 May 2005, 12:54 am

No. The supreme anty has told me not to use ants, as he is Thee Supreme Ant. Anyway, he is dreaming all of us and decided to make me emperor of everyone.............. I am not mad........... HOnestly.


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27 May 2005, 2:35 am

I think AS males have hit harder...for reasons not too unrelated to the fact that most people diagnosed are male. From what I see in society, it appears that society itself is getting progressively more social, depending and expecting people to be more NT-proficient in the very things that AS people are different than NT people in (most of the business textbooks I've read in college seem to say different variations of "back in the old days, business was judged by rote performance and task fulfillment, now it's all about relationships with others..."). Society also is becoming much less tolerant of socially awkward behavior, behavior without an immediately identifiable social context, and, from what I've seen in society, appears to be more suspicious of males acting oddly than females acting oddly...hence more males getting sent to doctors, getting told to do so by school districts, etc.

Just my 2 cents, based on what I've seen in society through the years...[/i]



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27 May 2005, 2:39 am

AS_Interlocking wrote:
Society also is becoming much less tolerant of socially awkward behavior, behavior without an immediately identifiable social context, and, from what I've seen in society, appears to be more suspicious of males acting oddly than females acting oddly


i suspect that this is because men still have more power than women (even in this age of "equal opportunites" - don't make me laugh), and so are seen as more of a threat from that perspective.



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27 May 2005, 2:51 am

This thread was pointless when it was started and has only become more so. Neither have lives that are easier than the other. Ragardless of being AS male or AS female, the world wants clones and we're not it.