Aspie Nation,If we build it will they come?
i_Am_andaJoy
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Location: Ocala, FL
sadly, several of these posts seem to be just as hateful and blind as "any eyes that had never seen unicorns", so even if i could be admitted into the special club, i guess i pass...
but the idea still holds allure... living on the streets is not a great option, but if i could protect myself from being raped or killed i would seriously consider it... or maybe if i had enough survival skills to live in the middle of the desert or something where no one would bother me...
i hope you will make a village or a nation, because i imagine it would be wonderful to find your people... i am still looking for mine... but they are not anywhere
I can completely relate to this but with one small difference. I am a fairy princess (realized I was different from the other kids at age 5, so have age appropriate fantasy). My parents, the fairy ones, were running from something awful and lost me. They are still looking for me and once they find me and take me back I'll return to where everyone is like me. But for the time being I would love to join the commune for foreigners to this planet. I'm hoping to become a lawyer, so I could set up a judicial system. Let me know when moving day is.
tinky
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my first thought when i read this title was I'll come as long as they have mango trees lining the streets.(i lovers mangos).
then i thought...this nation could possibly slightly chaotic seeing how we've lived around NTs for most of our lives. i don't know if we'd get along that well with all of our strange quirks and personalities. hmm....the nation could have a very rough start.
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I imagine we'd have no more trouble spotting them than they have spotting us.
Well spotted, its not going to look any clearer than this
♪ Here we come, walkin' down the street... ♪
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hartzofspace
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Location: On the Road Less Traveled
Saw the coolest doc.(1/2 of) last night about a place called Seborga in Italia
called Ekcentrics or Exentriiiks or something that made it hard to google
http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Selfprocl.html
This is totally off topic but it was in the same show
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVrlA3-f29g[/youtube]
I have a related plan in effect. While its not a town or country, its flexible for people that want to live where they currently are, and it involves a way for Aspies to socialize nicely. Several are already there and making friends. It seems to cut right through the difficulites.
Here is the link.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt45102.html
It does get hot in the summer, but not too cold in the winter. Southern New Mexico.
No place is perfect. This one has what counts, pure water, fertile soil, and low price.
Summer days will hit 100, but with low humidity it feels like 85 in New Orleans or Florida. Nights are cool.
Winter low is 32 overnight. 355 days a year of sun.
It is the only place where aspies could afford to live. And then only if we make it so.
Reasons,
It is on I-10, Amtrak, Greyhound, 100 miles from the El Paso airport.
It is close to the Mexico border town of Puerto Palomas, the only 24/7 port of entry.
Doctors, dentists, glasses, perscriptions, cost about one-third. So do food and beer.
There is trade potential with Mexico. It is cheap because there are no local jobs.
We need to form an economy anyway.
With staples from Mexico, corn, beans, rice, and local produce, no one will go hungry.
Houses start at $10,000. There are some strange land sales, but good land, power, phone, fertile soil, irrigation water rights, wells, in 100+ acres is $1000 an acre.
New Mexico has easy building codes. Adobe is fine. There is an intentional community there, they build in papercrete, recycled paper and cement.
It is 30 miles from the I-10 to the Mexican border, for about a hundred miles.
It is 200 miles east of Tucson. 100 miles west of El Paso.
At almost 61 I am looking to retire, and spend a long time rock hunting, the place is known for geodes, agate, opal.
It has what I want, post office, UPS, and Internet. I sell on ebay, so that covers my world.
Puerto Palomas is known for wood work. doors, windows, tables, chairs, beds. Mexico also has pipe, plumbing fixtures, so building gets cheap.
The big cost are a well, $8000 and septic tank, $2000, but a group of houses can share a larger system.
One place to build an economy is construction.
I am going soon. My plan is to buy something in town.
What I found was I can afford most of it. I have an outside income.
It has range, from being on the edge of a town with a Walmart, to being on the edge of a town in Mexico.
There is room to form a colony, and be within fifteen miles of both worlds.
The best deals are above 100 acres. irrigated working farms. It seems the border control has gotten rid of farm workers.
The housing bubble is breaking, so land prices are dropping to what can it earn, and that is not much.
Buyers are few. Most are snowbirds that want a place to park the RV near the senior center.
Out there is wide open.
Wealth is income and outgo. Here land can provide homes, food, and employment. When money flows in and stays, you get rich. When your main expenses are low, you get rich.
I see this group as suited to working the world from their computers, and there are thousands of things to sell.
Some excersize would be good, great hiking, horses, parks, National Forests, nature. It is all close.
For most, an acre is large. Most homes are on 1/8 acre. Here we can buy in, and just keep buying.
Running water and sewer, mutual defense, houses should be close. The village design works, but around it are open fields. They can provide most of the food.
I would think a land trust, an investment, then selling homes on the edge. It allows for secure investment,
Buy land, they don't make it any more. Fertile land with water will always go up. and homes can be owned as private property.
Some people do not want a home with land, just a room in the village. We can have a range.
Now comes the hard part, who would put up money, and who would build?
The deals come with group buying power, and making it something takes work.
I am going to buy a house, wall the yard, and build some aspie pens out back.
I would post land deals, for those who would go it alone.
Those who can buy a section, 640 acres, can see a realtor.
Forming a group from aspies, and getting them to do something, I am only human.
You will have to be self motivating for this.
Buying a section, running water and sewer, is going to cost $100,000, with a $500,000 debt.
It is not much for a hundred people. $6000 buys 6 acres with improvments.
A land trust is backed by land, which is better than dollars. It can pay a dividend, you do not own the land, just the value, so it can pay like a bond or CD. The land is security for the debt. It is great when the land is paid for in full. The only liability is taxes, where the investment is for the down payment, the monthly payments also have to be made.
The best deals are for cash. All cash today and prices drop. Make your money when you buy.
Now comes herding cats.
Sounds good to me.Now,I just have to figure out how to make the money to invest.I have been doing some saving,and then something else breaks and oooops,there it goes.It's hard not to imagine that our current economy is intentionaly structured to create "wage slaves" ....put that would just be paranoid and delussional thinking(says the psychiatrist trying to get me to take the soma
)
The community sounds a bit more of a stable investment then many of the stocks on the market,(scary stuff going on in our economy right now...it's not self sustainable or stable).
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No place is perfect. This one has what counts, pure water, fertile soil, and low price.
Summer days will hit 100, but with low humidity it feels like 85 in New Orleans or Florida. Nights are cool.
Winter low is 32 overnight. 355 days a year of sun.
It is the only place where aspies could afford to live. And then only if we make it so.
Reasons,
It is on I-10, Amtrak, Greyhound, 100 miles from the El Paso airport.
It is close to the Mexico border town of Puerto Palomas, the only 24/7 port of entry.
Doctors, dentists, glasses, perscriptions, cost about one-third. So do food and beer.
There is trade potential with Mexico. It is cheap because there are no local jobs.
We need to form an economy anyway.
With staples from Mexico, corn, beans, rice, and local produce, no one will go hungry.
Houses start at $10,000. There are some strange land sales, but good land, power, phone, fertile soil, irrigation water rights, wells, in 100+ acres is $1000 an acre.
New Mexico has easy building codes. Adobe is fine. There is an intentional community there, they build in papercrete, recycled paper and cement.
It is 30 miles from the I-10 to the Mexican border, for about a hundred miles.
It is 200 miles east of Tucson. 100 miles west of El Paso.
At almost 61 I am looking to retire, and spend a long time rock hunting, the place is known for geodes, agate, opal.
It has what I want, post office, UPS, and Internet. I sell on ebay, so that covers my world.
Puerto Palomas is known for wood work. doors, windows, tables, chairs, beds. Mexico also has pipe, plumbing fixtures, so building gets cheap.
The big cost are a well, $8000 and septic tank, $2000, but a group of houses can share a larger system.
One place to build an economy is construction.
I am going soon. My plan is to buy something in town.
What I found was I can afford most of it. I have an outside income.
It has range, from being on the edge of a town with a Walmart, to being on the edge of a town in Mexico.
There is room to form a colony, and be within fifteen miles of both worlds.
The best deals are above 100 acres. irrigated working farms. It seems the border control has gotten rid of farm workers.
The housing bubble is breaking, so land prices are dropping to what can it earn, and that is not much.
Buyers are few. Most are snowbirds that want a place to park the RV near the senior center.
Out there is wide open.
Wealth is income and outgo. Here land can provide homes, food, and employment. When money flows in and stays, you get rich. When your main expenses are low, you get rich.
I see this group as suited to working the world from their computers, and there are thousands of things to sell.
Some excersize would be good, great hiking, horses, parks, National Forests, nature. It is all close.
For most, an acre is large. Most homes are on 1/8 acre. Here we can buy in, and just keep buying.
Running water and sewer, mutual defense, houses should be close. The village design works, but around it are open fields. They can provide most of the food.
I would think a land trust, an investment, then selling homes on the edge. It allows for secure investment,
Buy land, they don't make it any more. Fertile land with water will always go up. and homes can be owned as private property.
Some people do not want a home with land, just a room in the village. We can have a range.
Now comes the hard part, who would put up money, and who would build?
The deals come with group buying power, and making it something takes work.
I am going to buy a house, wall the yard, and build some aspie pens out back.
I would post land deals, for those who would go it alone.
Those who can buy a section, 640 acres, can see a realtor.
Forming a group from aspies, and getting them to do something, I am only human.
You will have to be self motivating for this.
Buying a section, running water and sewer, is going to cost $100,000, with a $500,000 debt.
It is not much for a hundred people. $6000 buys 6 acres with improvments.
A land trust is backed by land, which is better than dollars. It can pay a dividend, you do not own the land, just the value, so it can pay like a bond or CD. The land is security for the debt. It is great when the land is paid for in full. The only liability is taxes, where the investment is for the down payment, the monthly payments also have to be made.
The best deals are for cash. All cash today and prices drop. Make your money when you buy.
Now comes herding cats.
Make sure you can get water, Inventor. I grew up in that part of the world and you can have all the water rights on the planet, but if you don't have a good, solid water source fertile soil won't help you much. You'll also want to be off the power grid, as it's pricey. Are you talking out by Lordsburg?
South of Deming, where the Mimbres River runs underground.
I figure irrigated land, for irrigation uses much more than people. I would have all wells checked for GPM, and quality.
No border crossing near Lordsburg, Atelope Springs, part time, and where the drugs come through.
Most land out there is worthless for survival.
Areas that have been in crops, level, proven wells, are worth investment.
I looked along the Balconies Escarpment in Texas, good water, poor soils.
The area around Big Bend has lead and mecury, from there to El Paso, ground water is deep and iffy.
Deming is the next Amtrak stop.
Thirty miles south to Puerto Palomas, 24/7 Port of Entry. Columbus is three miles from the border.
The good water, at 100 foot, and flat land, come in patches from I-10 to Columbus.
A good highway, 11, well patrolled by Border Patrol, as they move back and forth from Deming, to the border. It keeps the illegals and drug runners far to the east and west.
There is also good land and water north of I-10, but higher prices and bigger plots.
10,000 irrigated acres, $10,000,000, we would need a lot of aspies. Still, for $1,000 an acre, it is a working farm.
The downturn is caused by lack of labor, it was all done by Mexicans, which is no longer allowed.
Fields that grew high value crops, melons, onions, now raise hay.
Even one section, 640 acres, is a big farm. It would feed a thousand people.
I look at what could last hundreds of years.
Farming for market is hard, farming to feed yourselves is profitable.
It will still take a lot of on the ground looking to locate the Aspie Kingdom.
Update, still at it, I have not found any reason not to.
The economy has gone as predicted, and owning an acre, with a home, is the greastest cost cutting for most.
Food production is the main long term issue, a few acres of corn and beans would feed many.
The way to increase your income in the coming economy is cut expenses.
