Lord of the Flies

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So I was looking through some old school books to sell to a local bookstore and I came across 'Lord of the Flies'. Now bear with me, I thought about Piggy in the book and if he had AS, probably the reason he was so different from the other boys. I thought about the story, civilization crumbling on an island, The Beast etc.

It got me thinking, what is your opinion on an all AS, with one NT on the Island, civilization? Would it work with an AS person in charge or would the NT have to lead or atleast play the same role as Piggy did? Would this civilization end up the way Jack lead and be entirely savages? Or would it flourish?

I like to do role reversal and see where people take it, I know hypothetical questions don't make sense but It's the last season of Lost and most of what Lost was based on was Lord of the Flies so, lets see how it would be if the tables turned and AS was the majority.

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I'm sorry for asking alot from other people to answer a hypothetical question, I understand now being around autistics that only a few can do this, this is what I was look for, and I know now that it isn't an area I should go into.

People with Asperger syndrome need to eat, too.

We understand systems. It would be the most well organised island nation in the world. Right up until we all hit meltdown together.

Even as I typed that the voice in the back of my head was sending me images of how to make water filters from interleaved layers of charcoal and sand, and how to make tidal fish traps. I wish I didn;t have this nerd/engineer in my head as he will be feeding me plans for the rest of the day now.

I hope you are satisfied!

People on the spectrum all trying to rebuild civilization on a desert island?
I see one person having a severe meltdown over sand between their toes. Another will starve to death because they can't stand the texture of the fruit there, and only eat seasoned pork. Several will be loose cannons simply over the drastic change from civilization to nature.
You'd need NTs there. However, the NTs would have to be understanding and perceptive enough to know the part one on the spectrum can play. Leave the "engineer" alone to do his/her thing, and use the people skills to teach others to make the contraptions that have been built. Gently convince the ones with food issues to adapt to unseasoned meat, coconuts, fruits, water from a river, etc. And the ASD people need to not have any grudges against the NTs. We can't afford to have anyone pulling an "Atlas Shrugged" under those circumstances. Let them have their "chit-chats", so long as they don't try to force it on the autistics.
If anything, neurodiversity is even more important on a desert island.

I'd prefer it to be 50/50.
And everyone has a bit of the responsibility, not just 1 or a few members in charge.

I actually think that AS is seen a lot more different in our society, so on a deserted island the issues may not be as severe. Small-talk or a social life wouldn't be compulsory to get a job. There would be no fast pace of the city that just drives me (I mean us) insane. You wouldn't have to please so many people too. Just work as a team then go do your own thing.

I've also not read the book in a long time...

I hated the book, and the movie was even worse.

The issue here is not so much about AS/NT. Flies was about a bunch of kids. Adults would have handled things differently, and would have taken considerably longer to revert to savagery. That said, an island civ such as you describe would probably not work out very well. The AS folks would all want to do their own things. Even one NT trying to see all perspectives could not herd a small colony of us.

I don't see reasons to think Piggy is AS. The reason he's not listened is because he's smarter, geekier and because of his obesity. He's too clever to be understood by the others kids, who prefer to listen to simpler ideas and a more aggressive leader that Ralph, breaking the "democracy", and bringing a ruthless bloody dictatorship.

I haven't read the book. But I'd never want to live on an island with only autistic people. Nor one with only autistic and NT people. I like the way it already works where you get all neurological types not just one or two sets of types.

The book was boring and I had no clue what was going on in it. I saw the movie though.

I thought it a Cold War piece, how fragile our civilized ways are, compared to the uncontrolled ways of the Hun, Commie, or worse, the Irish.

One NT would go mad, Island of Doctor Moru, or Kurtze in heart of Darkness. Both rose to become gods, but were quite mad. That is a main trait of gods.

Most likely, with a strong need to socialize, the NT would adapt. They could not take the isolation. no one would talk sports with them, they would have to join in to whatever was happening.

My question would be, while they do socialize, they do not build structures to reach goals, they do what the group does.

The AS would be working out the water filter, but would they build it?

Only one way to tell, time for some kidnapping!

i just read this recently- lord of the flies is an allegory concerning the ultimate evil underlying humanity. the name is derived from the old hebrew epithet for satan [Ba‘al Zebûb or Beelzebub] - IOW satan was thought to be not only NOT the brightest light, but that he was in fact a "lord of nothing but the flies." the setting of the novel/movie is a microcosm of the world in general which is a culture of mankind versus a culture of God, and is meant to convey the author's belief that such a culture is doomed to fail in time. a useful link, below-
lord of the flies
ok i'll shut up now

If anything it was Simon and not Piggy who was autistic. Piggy was just fat and fat kids get bullied. Simon was the loner who usually hung back. It was perhaps Simon's otherness that allowed him to see things as they were instead of the illusions that blinded the other boys.

Lord of the Flies is a masterpiece that will endure. [removed - M.]