Ever been told you belong in an institution?!

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16 Jun 2010, 11:53 am

I have heard that i belong in an institution countless times. From doctors, psychiatrists, teachers, and even principals. Everytime I hear it my heart feels like trash, and I begin to think long and hard that maybe my family would be happier if I was normal, and that it is my fault that they are anti-social.



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16 Jun 2010, 11:55 am

I've only been told that by myself.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:00 pm

Reading your topic made me think back, and I can't believe it, but no one has ever told me I belong in an institution. I find that quite surprising, because, at times, my behaviour was more than just a little eccentric. I don't know how I managed to stay out of one.
When I was five and eight, I had surgeries and I hated being in the hospital with a passion. Maybe that's why they don't recommend institutions for me.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:20 pm

Not only told so, but I was put in one for 7 months when I was 10 years old.

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16 Jun 2010, 12:44 pm

I am threatened with "being sent away" or "a lot of therapy" but it never happens, those liars.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:46 pm

Yeah, when I was in high school in the 70's, my mom said I should be put away because I was opposed to the Vietnam war. Can we conclude that she and I had opposing political views?

My question would be WHY medical professionals feel you should be institutionalized?



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16 Jun 2010, 12:50 pm

The only people who belong in institutions are those who are an imminent danger to themselves or to others. Otherwise, no one belongs in an institution. Institutions are not only demoralizing, but they just don't help the patients. Ever.

Besides, there are tons of alternatives to institutionalization that do not disrupt one's life, and that actually have a higher chance of success. My hometown of Rochester, NY has led the way with Assertive Community Treatment (ACT), and its criminology component, Forensic Assertive Community Treatment (FACT). While they maintain a few residential centers, most clients live in their homes, with frequent drop-ins by nurses, social workers, and (if needed) corrections officers. I did some research on this program, and it does seem to work. A few other communities provide it, with more offering this service every day.

Other alternatives exist. If you think you need help, check with your state's/country's public health service for ideas on alternatives.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:54 pm

My parents were told when I was little that I be in an institution by the time I'm ten. They were also informed I will never talk or learn to take care of myself or be on my own. Parents are told these things a lot about their kids but doctors are always wrong because parents prove them wrong. They have hope is why so they try and teach them and they learn.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:58 pm

My mum used to threaten to put me in a group home. I had a teacher tell me I would go to the hospital if I kept up at it (whatever "it" was I had no idea). My mum tells me that as a toddler and super young child phycologists would tell her I belonged in an instituon.


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16 Jun 2010, 1:24 pm

DonkeyBuster wrote:
Yeah, when I was in high school in the 70's, my mom said I should be put away because I was opposed to the Vietnam war. Can we conclude that she and I had opposing political views?

My question would be WHY medical professionals feel you should be institutionalized?




8O


Hmmm....so people who opposed the napalming and agent-oranging of
the non-aryan untermensch for the benefit of the US military-industrial
complex and almighty capitalist "economy" should've been institutionalized?



Well isn't that special?


*shakes head*


Heinrich Himmler would be proud.


Goes to show what many American conservatives REALLY mean when they talk about "freedom".


The freedom to be a greedy, self-entitled, racist, socially darwinian, war-mongering, ecocidal sociopath.


Anyone who isn't all these things should be locked up in institutions or perhaps
even gassed.



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16 Jun 2010, 1:28 pm

lotuspuppy wrote:
The only people who belong in institutions are those who are an imminent danger to themselves or to others...


...Or people who need to be "supervised" and cared for 24 hours, seven days a week. Institutions are not just hospitals as the public policy of de-institutionalization which began in the 1960s with the development of psychotropic medications (Thorazine, Haldol and current antipsychotics) led to the creation of community residences in many cities across the USA. In many parts of the USA, many patients in institutions were simply "dumped" into communities with no plans to care for them. In some cities, there are very good residential, "institutional"group homes.

A good "institution" does not have to be "bad"...public policy must make the needs of each resident needing care, understanding and support a priority ahead of monetary profit.



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16 Jun 2010, 1:28 pm

A couple of times for myself.

My older sister was constantly threatened by my parents with institutionalization whenever she raged uncontrollably. Hearing this said to my sister when I was a young child was terrifying. My parents used a lot of invalidation to keep their kids under control, and as far as I'm concerned, it was this tactic that made my sister the way she is, which I believe to be Borderline PD. She's messed up to this day, and has had serious psychotic breaks.

I think that threatening a child with this is one of the most abusive things a parent/caretaker can do. If, for some reason, a person truly needs such a thing, I wouldn't try and add to their obvious pain by making them feel worse than they already do. A little empathy, please.



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16 Jun 2010, 1:33 pm

Horus wrote:
DonkeyBuster wrote:
Yeah, when I was in high school in the 70's, my mom said I should be put away because I was opposed to the Vietnam war. Can we conclude that she and I had opposing political views?

My question would be WHY medical professionals feel you should be institutionalized?




8O


Hmmm....so people who opposed the napalming and agent-oranging of
the non-aryan untermensch for the benefit of the US military-industrial
complex and almighty capitalist "economy" should've been institutionalized?



Well isn't that special?


*shakes head*



It's OK... I grew up to be a non-breeding lesbian, thereby thwarting her g'baby plans.
Just goes to show... 'nurture' is not defining. One can rise above it... one may actually have a social obligation to. :D



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16 Jun 2010, 1:39 pm

I've been told by somebody that I belonged in a hospital, at the age of 12, during Friday assembly.


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16 Jun 2010, 1:45 pm

lotuspuppy wrote:
The only people who belong in institutions are those who are an imminent danger to themselves or to others. Otherwise, no one belongs in an institution. Institutions are not only demoralizing, but they just don't help the patients. Ever.


The whole idea of inpatient care has got to change, got to become much more supportive and holistic, and the attitudes of staff need a real change.

I have never known anyone who has been committed, either voluntarily or involuntarily. I did, however, write a character in one of my stories who had inpatient treatment--but it was very much what you said: he was trying to kill himself and got darned near actually doing it. So he definitely fit the "danger to himself" category. Otherwise I would not have written this character actually being put in inpatient even temporarily unless he got into a state so bad he couldn't care for himself AND his family lacked the ability to care for him.


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16 Jun 2010, 1:46 pm

They don't have institutions here, so maybe you could threaten to move to Canada if they try it! lol.


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