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leejosepho
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I would suspect other people had long been wondering what, if anything, about you might "change" at 12, then said "spontaneously worse all of a sudden" when their silly expectations or age-related superstitions were not met. So, that means *they* are the ones who are "spontaneously worse all of a sudden", not you!
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spooky13
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Firstly, happy birthday!
I don't think there's any magical age that spikes symptoms, you are however entering pubrety, that in itself is something that will make things seem worse at times.
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In a lot of western cultures 12 is an important age, as a divider between childhood and puberty. Also a more grown-up attitude is expected. Probably you do not show that behaviour and they think you are worse than before. Like leejosepho said the expectations are the first problem. Puberty can cause a change, but that is difficult to determine.
Also the reactions of people are difficult. When a lot of people say I behave in a poor way, I 'freeze up' and my autistic behaviour actually gets worse.
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I wouldn't say they're suddenly spontaneously worse; it sounds like they've been "planning" this for a very long time.
They're just now showing their "inner douchebags".
BTW, Happy Birthday good sir!
Let me go against what everyone else is saying so far and point out to you that you're entering a tumultuous period. Everyone's a little crazy in their teens. If you're female, you might be having PMS for the first time, which could affect your functioning.
That and they'd be expecting you to "get over" certain things that you won't get over.
Oh, and if your birthday involved a big party, loud, lots of socializing, your batteries may need recharging before you can maintain a previous ability level again.
Lots of potential reasons. Also, it's summer. If you understand school better, or if you're just having a difficult transition into vacation, they may be picking up on that. In that case, give it six weeks.
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Nope. That is the one thing about AS that is fairly well known. AS is what it is from early childhood onward. It doesn't suddenly appear (though it may take a bit to be seen when you finally reach the age were social situations make it more apparent). And it doesn't "get worse" though you might encounter situations you haven't before that bring your symptoms to a more visible level. If anything, over the long term (decades), it might appear to become less pronounced, but that is probably more due to learning coping and adapting skills, not to the lessening or "improvement" of the Asperger's. Aspgerger's, as far as anyone knows, doesn't lessen or disappear. We just get better at learning to live with it.
My guess is that the same thing is happening with you that is happening with my sons. They range in age from almost eleven to almost fourteen.
The differences I'm seeing in them is probably the same with you.
You're becoming a TEENAGER! (Dark foreboding music plays suddenly) Do us all, and your parents a favor? Don't use it as an excuse to act like many teenagers act (obnoxious and/or disrespectful). I mean, it's probably going to happen anyway, but just if you catch yourself doing it, stop, apologize, and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't just shrug your shoulders and say, "I can't help it, I'm a teenager!"
You've got a gazillion hormones racing around inside you right now, making you feel, and sometimes even act a little crazy. It's NORMAL. Even NT kids go through it. You're in for a bit if a bumpy ride for the next few years. Just hang on tight, breath, and if your parents give you advice, LISTEN to it, no matter how strongly you feel you don't want to!
Peace little man. May we welcome you into adulthood very soon. Much sooner than you think!
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Difficult to determine? You're kidding, right?
Surely when the teen hormones start kicking in, it's pretty obvious. Maybe you haven't had much exposure to teens going through it? Puberty not only "can" cause a change, it DOES. That's what it is! A change! It's very literal and very major. Visible both in a physical sense, and in behavior. It's only if there were little to no change that I'd be worried.
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I'm not likely to be around much longer. As before when I first signed up here years ago, I'm finding that after a long hiatus, and after only a few days back on here, I'm spending way too much time here again already. So I'm requesting my account be locked, banned or whatever. It's just time. Until then, well, I dunno...
I also have a tip for you good sir: being Autistic also means you have a greater chance of being a "female repellent"; don't take it personally...people are gonna jump at the chance to target you now since they'll be even more insecure around each other than they ever were before.
Just be you, do what you do, and don't let the peer pressure get to you; you can rise above all of them, and the best part is...yes, there is someone out there for you.
What's even better is that your "female repellent" will repel all but the right one. Yes, it's a built-in system designed to weed out all the wrong ones! It may seem discouraging at times, but it'll be a far greater ally to you in the long run than you may ever realize ![]()
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prepare to be blown away
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At 12, you're before the time when many of us really started facing the things that caused Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, which leads to nasty anxiety issues... Mind you, by 12, most, if not all the causes of my PTSD had already occurred.
In many cases it is not the "trauma" itself that burns and etches in our minds forever, it is the way society views that traumatic event. Even more so, it is how you think society will react. This is most obvious is sexual assault and molestation cases, but it is true about every traumatic event.
You need to learn now, before it is too late, how to deal with what society expects of you, and no dwell on how different you are from what society expects. If you let it bother you, if you let people saying you've gotten worse bother you, that will have an impact on you for the rest of your life. Don't let that happen.
Be proud of the way you do things, don't try to conform to the way others do things. But do try to find a bridge to help you relate to those that do things other ways. It's not just your responsibility though. Others around you, if they're worth having around you, will also need to learn ways to bridge that gap.
But now that you are 12, you will be more able to develop coping skills. Maybe those that have said you're getting worse are expecting those coping mechanisms to already be in place, and in not seeing them yet, see you as worse. If it's your friends that say this, It is just as likely that they are changing rapidly at this age, and the changes in thinking and actions in you will not likely be the same as what happens in them. I know it certainly wasn't for me... My friends became far more distant for quite some time as I hit puberty.
I can only give you one bit of advice... Don't convince yourself that you want what your friends want, when you don't really want it. Doing so makes you into an adult that no longer can figure out what he himself wants, and what he thinks is expected of him.
In many cases it is not the "trauma" itself that burns and etches in our minds forever, it is the way society views that traumatic event. Even more so, it is how you think society will react. This is most obvious is sexual assault and molestation cases, but it is true about every traumatic event.
You need to learn now, before it is too late, how to deal with what society expects of you, and no dwell on how different you are from what society expects. If you let it bother you, if you let people saying you've gotten worse bother you, that will have an impact on you for the rest of your life. Don't let that happen.
Be proud of the way you do things, don't try to conform to the way others do things. But do try to find a bridge to help you relate to those that do things other ways. It's not just your responsibility though. Others around you, if they're worth having around you, will also need to learn ways to bridge that gap.
But now that you are 12, you will be more able to develop coping skills. Maybe those that have said you're getting worse are expecting those coping mechanisms to already be in place, and in not seeing them yet, see you as worse. If it's your friends that say this, It is just as likely that they are changing rapidly at this age, and the changes in thinking and actions in you will not likely be the same as what happens in them. I know it certainly wasn't for me... My friends became far more distant for quite some time as I hit puberty.
I can only give you one bit of advice... Don't convince yourself that you want what your friends want, when you don't really want it. Doing so makes you into an adult that no longer can figure out what he himself wants, and what he thinks is expected of him.
I absolutely love this!
In fact, as I even used to tell people: "just be yourself; the more you sell yourself out to try to be like other people, after a while you'll forget who you even are; don't let that happen"
And yes, it's true that if you let it happen, you won't know what you want....well, here's something else I used to tell people "most people don't even know what they want for themselves, let alone for you". Remember that, too.
One final point about what he said: the best thing to do is be the best you that you can possibly be; strive for excellence in the things you love..it'll put you over the top with ease.
I actually think in some ways we have an advantage in knowing what we really want and who we are.
The problem is, that the rest of the people around us don't know what they want, or who they are, as a result NT's tend to follow what others want, rather than figuring out for themselves.
The problem is that there are so many NT's out there, that expect us, like them to follow behind what they were told they want and think is right/wrong. We often follow in line just to get along. Don't do it!! !
Someone who doesn't know what they want doesn't experience the inner turmoil and cognitive dissonance that people who DO know what they want suffer from when they act contrary to their beliefs/wants/desires/feelings etc.
For example, if you don't care if you watch "Two and a Half Men" or "Sesame Street" then it won't matter to you which you watch... Even though one IS a better show to watch for you, depending on who you are. But if you DO know which one is the better one, and would greatly prefer to watch that one... then it DOES matter to you which you watch. That sounds like a statement of the obvious... however when you make yourself watch the one you don't like over the one you do like, over and over again... it has a psychological toll on you.
Now change it from a TV show, and make the issue your religion, your social manner, you preference in a boyfriend/girlfriend, your choice of friends, the courses you take in school, your job.... Important things... and imagine just how much psychological toll it has on you.
