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StevieC
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02 Aug 2010, 9:08 am

just wondered what it means, if anything.

it was while i was working in july at a gig, getting fed at least 2 bits of information which contradicted each other so my brain just shut down...


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02 Aug 2010, 9:10 am

Sounds like whoever said that is trying to say you're slow. I've been called lazy for other reasons.



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02 Aug 2010, 9:11 am

I am sure he meant you were a re-re.



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02 Aug 2010, 9:15 am

Nope.
But I think the person who told you you were was just trying to be politically correct in calling you 'ret*d' or 'slow', as the previous posts said.



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02 Aug 2010, 9:17 am

btw WP, you need to get some string concatenation on the go to filter input text strings to the server :wink:
i think i broke the HTML. oops.

re-re?


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02 Aug 2010, 9:25 am

StevieC wrote:
re-re?


I think that that means 'ret*d'.
(I'm not saying that you are, I'm just explaining what he said.)



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02 Aug 2010, 9:47 am

so how do i explain to the guy i just need a little extra time to think things out (he is effectively my boss)
i know what i'm doing & im qualified, but it's like when im talking - i can hear clearly, but it seems like a foreign language until ive thought about it for a sec. i get 6 people telling me to do abc, 6 more telling me to do xyz and 1 assistant & 1 boss telling me to do mno & PQR respectively - (not all at same time - but in relation to the same thing) - what the hell am i supposed to do? ask again just makes me look like an idiot - and get the same confusion over and over again.

grr :(


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02 Aug 2010, 9:49 am

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02 Aug 2010, 10:02 am

I think that it was a polite way of saying, he thought that you were ret*d. I disagree with him. You don't seem that way, to me. You seem very intelligent, to me.


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02 Aug 2010, 11:01 am

intellectually lazy suggests to me that he thinks im intelligent - but just not using it %100.

kind of like sitting on a couch in my underpants eating doritos watching Top Gear on Dave.

im just not sure how to explain it to him.



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02 Aug 2010, 11:06 am

People only use the word "lazy" when they think you are capable of doing something but have simply decided not to. I disagree with the posters who think it's his code for slow or mentally ret*d. If he actually thought you were either of those things, he wouldn't have used the word "lazy" which implies that you can do whatever but just won't. Intellectually lazy means you are able to do certain intellectual tasks but just can't be bothered (he thinks).



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so how do i explain to the guy i just need a little extra time to think things out (he is effectively my boss)
i know what i'm doing & im qualified, but it's like when im talking - i can hear clearly, but it seems like a foreign language until ive thought about it for a sec. i get 6 people telling me to do abc, 6 more telling me to do xyz and 1 assistant & 1 boss telling me to do mno & PQR respectively - (not all at same time - but in relation to the same thing) - what the hell am i supposed to do? ask again just makes me look like an idiot - and get the same confusion over and over again.

grr :(


From this follow-up post, I think he thinks you understand the directions you are given by various people but you just make no effort to remember them because it's just not important to you. "Make no effort to remember" = "intellectualy lazy".

I have a hard time remembering long strings of intructions. To get around this, I have a pen and notebook in my purse (to go along with the calculator for dyscalcula, thank goodness for accomodation props). Whenever somebody starts giving me a long string of intructions (at work or elsewhere) I take out the notebook and write them down. When people see that I'm taking notes, they leave little pauses in their instructions to give me time to write them down. I've never been given any flak about this note taking. I think it gives people a little ego boost that their words are considered important enough to write down.

You could try doing this too. You might not even need these things written down like I do. But if you do need that bit of extra time for processing, taking notes buys you that time. Yes, it's multi-tasking having to listen and write. But I have noticed that people really do slow down once they realize their words are being written. They want to make sure you get it all correctly.

Your boss (or supervisor or team leader or whatever he is) will probably be a little taken aback to see you do this. If you've never done it before, he'll wonder why you are starting. Be honest. Tell him that his "intellectually lazy" comment got you thinking. Something like this:

"The other day you said I was 'intellectually lazy'. I'm not but it did get me thinking that sometimes I am a little forgetful. I read somewhere that taking notes helps with forgetfulness."

You may never actually even refer back to the notes you take. (Or maybe you will! I always do.) But visibly taking notes alters the way people give you information. They are a little more careful with wording because they know it's being written down and they tend to leave spaces between sentences instead of an unbroken stream-of-consciousness tide of information.



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02 Aug 2010, 12:48 pm

Ooh, that's great, Janissy. I will be trying that.


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02 Aug 2010, 1:31 pm

I have never been regarded as intellectually lazy (or at least, I am not aware of anyone thinking of me as such).

To be intellectually lazy is to be a person that has the ability to use reason and to question things around you, but instead of actually trying to challenge yourself or think of things in any great detail, you just resort to thinking in cliches and just accepting things without thinking about it properly. A good example of an intellectually lazy person is Ray Comfort:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfucpGCm5hY[/youtube]



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02 Aug 2010, 6:43 pm

i wont see him til next year as its only summer work.

but i think its mainly cos i stand around waiting for instruction - because im not sure how to ask for instruction - or even tell people that im waiting for it to come. and the easy confusion doesn't help. the result being i stand around quite a bit - but i do get asked and i will always try my best when asked - so he must surely see?



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02 Aug 2010, 8:01 pm

It's a prejudice. Don't believe him.



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02 Aug 2010, 8:06 pm

MindBlind wrote:
I have never been regarded as intellectually lazy (or at least, I am not aware of anyone thinking of me as such).

To be intellectually lazy is to be a person that has the ability to use reason and to question things around you, but instead of actually trying to challenge yourself or think of things in any great detail, you just resort to thinking in cliches and just accepting things without thinking about it properly. A good example of an intellectually lazy person is Ray Comfort:

That's how I always understood the term. Intellectual laziness = willful ignorance due to lack of intellectual curiosity.

Intellectual laziness != slow processing speed due to information overload. Ugh.