How do you cope within a world that is closed off to us

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31 Aug 2010, 4:57 pm

How do you cope within a world that often is shut down to our many differences :?:

I over organise my life in order to cope within the world on other individuals terms often. Because when things are not organised I feel more chaotic, worked that one out years ago. I realize my mind thinks and processes much faster and more than 1 person could ever be capable of doing, but right now my children my main focus, as I so want to ensure they have the confidence to be in this world and not have to rediscover or continually question. But my pleasure to do so and lucky I am able to have the time I do now for them, when they were younger I didn't and it became to many not now's and so that's what made me change my hectic London life to move to NZ, the best move I ever made for my family, awareness wise and diversity at times frustrates no end where I now live, but I am lucky to have some brilliant like minded friends, that do allow and understand me, as that helps a lot and some of you i have meet here

Having worked full time for over 20 years and at my age, to exhausting playing the part for others, so I allow me to be me these days, not everyone can relate, but me also to them. But I so feel its important that what ever we do we stay true to ourselves as individuals. Because when we don' that's when the alienated, frustration and anger sets in and for many self harm, growing up been there done that, a cry in the dark, it was like I never had permission to be self and I so have no intention of allowing anyone to take that away from me now. But I realize not everyone at the stage that I am, as often rediscovering a long and for many painful process. :?:


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31 Aug 2010, 5:14 pm

I would tell you, but you already know! :D


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31 Aug 2010, 5:48 pm

MrXxx, no one has all the answers and by sharing we help those still searching, and those that have travelled that road so know an extremely long road and at times never seems to end....

My self I retreat to my world with in this world to desensitise and regenerate, but the best I have ever done is to accept and no longer try and be and fit into a world on there terms, not always easy, but the more I do the more confidence I gain and I feel many are doing the same and in turn another change in motion. :)


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31 Aug 2010, 6:33 pm

You may have misunderstood me? I meant if I told you, my post would pretty much look exactly like the one you already made. :wink:

Sorry. My Aspie is showing again. :lol: I thought you'd read between the lines.


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31 Aug 2010, 8:33 pm

MrXxx wrote:
You may have misunderstood me? I meant if I told you, my post would pretty much look exactly like the one you already made. :wink:
Sorry. My Aspie is showing again. :lol: I thought you'd read between the lines.


I did get that, I was simply ranting on as I always do, I have a bad habit of asking and answering :D


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31 Aug 2010, 11:06 pm

Thing is, we access a world they can't even enter. I go into theirs - WHEN I HAVE TO - they never see mine.

There was a sci-fi story - probably several - involving a dimensional worp such that if you go through a door you are on a busy street on THIS world, look out the window or step out the back door and you are in the quiet woods on THAT world.

My job as astronaut exploring earth will not let me spend as much time outside the chaos as I would like - but more and more I get time in Eden.



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31 Aug 2010, 11:08 pm

I tend to shut myself off and out from everyone. I tend to stay in my mind. Write, imagine, and create.



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01 Sep 2010, 12:31 am

I'm 35 years old and it was only very recently that I realized that I would never fit in on the world's terms. I mourned it at first since I'd been thinking all these years that I would "grow out of" what made me different.

Well, that didn't happen. I pretty much keep to myself as much as possible because I don't think people will ever be receptive to me unless I put on an NT mask. I do my own thing, trying not to worry about how things "should" be and accept myself as is.


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01 Sep 2010, 2:15 am

Philologos wrote:
Thing is, we access a world they can't even enter. I go into theirs - WHEN I HAVE TO - they never see mine.

There was a sci-fi story - probably several - involving a dimensional worp such that if you go through a door you are on a busy street on THIS world, look out the window or step out the back door and you are in the quiet woods on THAT world.

My job as astronaut exploring earth will not let me spend as much time outside the chaos as I would like - but more and more I get time in Eden.



I love this answer!

I use something far better than social skills could ever offer me: psychology and observation.

In the process, I remember my learnings of the 48 Laws of Power, and always seem to have an acceptable prediction of what people will and won't do. It usually works out to my favor.

What you said though reminds me of a situation I just can't get over: that one scene from St. Elsewhere, where the Dad says "I don't understand this autism thing, Pop. Here's my son. I talk to him. I don't even know if he can hear me, because he sits there, all day long, in his own world, staring at that toy. What's he thinking about?"; I keep thinking "I'd be more than happy to tell ya, cause it goes on inside of me, too!" :D



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01 Sep 2010, 2:54 am

I enjoy being an outsider, watching how society works, constantly trying to understand. This place is like a big game to me.



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01 Sep 2010, 11:08 am

Asp-Z wrote:
I enjoy being an outsider, watching how society works, constantly trying to understand ...


Virtually nobody understand any of this when I was your age in 1966, but now you have all the above to hopefully help you along.


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01 Sep 2010, 5:01 pm

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01 Sep 2010, 5:08 pm

I celebrate my differences, and join the world, even though the world doesn't seem to want me. :)


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01 Sep 2010, 5:08 pm

asplanet wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
You may have misunderstood me? I meant if I told you, my post would pretty much look exactly like the one you already made. :wink:
Sorry. My Aspie is showing again. :lol: I thought you'd read between the lines.


I did get that, I was simply ranting on as I always do, I have a bad habit of asking and answering :D


No WAY! 8O

I wonder if I'm like that too?

Nah! No way am I like that! :lol:


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01 Sep 2010, 5:13 pm

Actually, there is something I do on occasion that you didn't mention, but it's kind of in a figurative way:

Slam the door on the world! :twisted:

(It's the old, "If you're gonna do that to me, I'm gonna do it first," mentality! :lol: )


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02 Sep 2010, 2:19 am

nirrti_rachelle wrote:
I'm 35 years old and it was only very recently that I realized that I would never fit in on the world's terms. I mourned it at first since I'd been thinking all these years that I would "grow out of" what made me different.

Well, that didn't happen. I pretty much keep to myself as much as possible because I don't think people will ever be receptive to me unless I put on an NT mask. I do my own thing, trying not to worry about how things "should" be and accept myself as is.

I do the same, as that's all any of us can do... but I do feel we should have more right to be able to live a life that suits us, without having to continually swim against a tide of ignorance and endlessly feeling we have to explain selves.... educating others just to be is exhausting after a while, when will society wake up that we are all simply not all the same!


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