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25 Nov 2010, 5:01 pm

Is there a such thing as an AS friendly suburb. I have experienced some discrimination and bullying in my suburb. I had to move house at one stage in the past as a result.

What are your experiences here. Are some suburbs more tolerant and less bigoted than others, and how can you really tell if a certain suburb will be AS friendly or not.


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25 Nov 2010, 5:52 pm

You could try an artist neighbourhood, usually in the big cities


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26 Nov 2010, 12:08 am

Or a techie neighborhood... you know, around a science and technology park like Silicon Valley in California (I think something similar exists in many other cities and countries)

Or an academic university area...

Actually... how would you describe this suburb where you felt so bullied that you had to move? What sort of suburb was that, and what exactly happened?



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26 Nov 2010, 12:11 am

i think the student areas are the best places because they are full of original thinkers and are generally more tolerant. I'd imagine a techie neighbourhood would be expensive to live in



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26 Nov 2010, 12:53 am

Not living in a city, but still living within commuting distance is probably the most aspie-friendly living arrangement (at least for one who needs to work.)


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26 Nov 2010, 12:55 am

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Actually... how would you describe this suburb where you felt so bullied that you had to move? What sort of suburb was that, and what exactly happened?


The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.


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26 Nov 2010, 4:52 am

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Actually... how would you describe this suburb where you felt so bullied that you had to move? What sort of suburb was that, and what exactly happened?


The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.


Wow... that's awful... I'm so sorry to hear it. Actually, it angers me to hear it. Somebody should shoot those people. What are police for? What are they doing? How can this state of affairs exist in our so-called civilized countries?

Here's another idea... why not live in an Asian area? Chinese, Indian, etc. - no way they would act that way - and you'd have some good food to eat too!



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26 Nov 2010, 5:17 am

Does it have to be a suburb and not somewhere more central to a town or city? Although I live in a suburb, it's personally not the ideal thing for me. In many ways I feel more exposed than I have done when living in more central places. Especially student areas, that would be exactly my suggestion too. There, you're far less exposed to antisocial kids and such like.



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26 Nov 2010, 5:38 am

Aspieallien wrote:
The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.

Wow.

I always knew that Australian bogans aren't exactly a tolerant type, but I never really expected this. Did you do anything to provoke them, other then just exist?


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26 Nov 2010, 7:12 am

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Aspieallien wrote:
The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.

Wow.

I always knew that Australian bogans aren't exactly a tolerant type, but I never really expected this. Did you do anything to provoke them, other then just exist?


I did nothing what so ever to provoke them. In fact I was probably the most inoffensive and concscientious person in the street.
My only crime was my existance, they knew I was different to them I think as I was always well presented and kept my house nice.
Oh yes the Australian bogan is a bigoted uncouth piece of sh** capable of very little apart from putting others down who show them up.


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26 Nov 2010, 7:19 am

Aspieallien wrote:
samsa wrote:
Aspieallien wrote:
The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.

Wow.

I always knew that Australian bogans aren't exactly a tolerant type, but I never really expected this. Did you do anything to provoke them, other then just exist?


I did nothing what so ever to provoke them. In fact I was probably the most inoffensive and concscientious person in the street.
My only crime was my existance, they knew I was different to them I think as I was always well presented and kept my house nice.
Oh yes the Australian bogan is a bigoted uncouth piece of sh** capable of very little apart from putting others down who show them up.

My deepest sympathies to you. I can't imagine what it would be like to put up with such a**hats every day of the week. These people are exactly what is wrong with our country.


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26 Nov 2010, 7:23 am

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Yes I think you have a point here, the larger the city or town the greater the anonymity. Where I am now is no where near as bad as the first place I had to move from, but I still have some issues here I am not happy about. The problem where I am now is it is a very small town with little anonymity. It sux that I have to think like this because otherwise I quite like where I am now.


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26 Nov 2010, 7:38 am

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Aspieallien wrote:
samsa wrote:
Aspieallien wrote:
The area I moved from had combined private and public housing mixed together. It was mostly people in the public housing who targeted me.
There seemed to be an element of distrust amongst people there and anyone that came across slightly different was to be feared and rejected.
I was stalked, had floodlights pointed at my house, rubbish thrown in the yard, rocks thrown at me and was hosed over the fence. The area I have moved to now is a semi rural area, being a small town I fear I have made the wrong move again as I am still experiencing problems with the yobbo type although I am learning now to stand up to it.

Wow.

I always knew that Australian bogans aren't exactly a tolerant type, but I never really expected this. Did you do anything to provoke them, other then just exist?


I did nothing what so ever to provoke them. In fact I was probably the most inoffensive and concscientious person in the street.
My only crime was my existance, they knew I was different to them I think as I was always well presented and kept my house nice.
Oh yes the Australian bogan is a bigoted uncouth piece of sh** capable of very little apart from putting others down who show them up.

My deepest sympathies to you. I can't imagine what it would be like to put up with such a**hats every day of the week. These people are exactly what is wrong with our country.


Yes our country would be a better place without them, the area I live in now is no where near as bad as where I was before, but still have problems. being semi rural and a small town it has its share of bogans, not as many though. I had a friend who lived in the same public housing area, he had to move from there too, He moved down your way.


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26 Nov 2010, 8:14 am

ThomasL wrote:
Or a techie neighborhood... you know, around a science and technology park like Silicon Valley in California (I think something similar exists in many other cities and countries)

Or an academic university area...

Actually... how would you describe this suburb where you felt so bullied that you had to move? What sort of suburb was that, and what exactly happened?


That sounds about right. In a techie suburb the only pushing around one suffers is when one of the guys has a later model of some technology than you do and he flaunts it over you.

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26 Nov 2010, 12:07 pm

I think most suburban areas are very tribalistic, in that they are very judgemental of outsiders and tend to follow very much group based behaviors that are more likely to look down upon folks who do not.

As somebody said, college towns, high tech areas (DC area, Boston area, Silicon Valley, Bay Area, Seattle, Portland) and within Major Cities (Chicago and NYC) are all areas where this is going to be much better. Urbanized suburbs in high tech corridors would probably be better suited. To be honest you want an area where people by in large stay out of their neighbors business, and nothing is considered that weird. If you are finding yourself alienated in the suburbs, get the hell out, you will be happier for that.

Oops, Noticed Australia. There is enough geek and artistic centric areas of the US that it is easy to find places to live which are suitable. DC and Silicon Valley has a very large percentage of people with ASD and ADHD, and many folks who work in the sciences, policy, IT etc. I am not sure Australia is organized like that in terms of localities.



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26 Nov 2010, 4:23 pm

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I think most suburban areas are very tribalistic, in that they are very judgemental of outsiders and tend to follow very much group based behaviors that are more likely to look down upon folks who do not.

As somebody said, college towns, high tech areas (DC area, Boston area, Silicon Valley, Bay Area, Seattle, Portland) and within Major Cities (Chicago and NYC) are all areas where this is going to be much better. Urbanized suburbs in high tech corridors would probably be better suited. To be honest you want an area where people by in large stay out of their neighbors business, and nothing is considered that weird. If you are finding yourself alienated in the suburbs, get the hell out, you will be happier for that.

Oops, Noticed Australia. There is enough geek and artistic centric areas of the US that it is easy to find places to live which are suitable. DC and Silicon Valley has a very large percentage of people with ASD and ADHD, and many folks who work in the sciences, policy, IT etc. I am not sure Australia is organized like that in terms of localities.


I think your right about the tribalistic nature of suburbs, if you show you are slightly different you are excluded and vicimized.


There is an area within my city that is home to several computer and software corporations, also a university.
Living expences is a bit higher there though, but is a lot closer to my work, this might be worth considering.
Only thing is a quite like the semi country feel where I am. Can't have it all though I surpose.
I think I would be so much happyer free of the bogans

Thanks everyone for your suggestions


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