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12 Feb 2011, 9:47 pm

The girl im dating told her father i had aspergers syndrome. He said "I know, I could tell by his eyes." It's strange I haven't heard of anything like that before. I mean eye contact yea but I have learned eye contact so that's out of the question. But how can you tell if someone has a form of autism from looking at their eyes?


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12 Feb 2011, 9:52 pm

He might have noticed a lack of sincere emotion? Which isn't to say you weren't feeling it, I mean in the way that most of us have to learn to form expressions.

I have doubts that he really could tell - certainly if he could that would be a remarkable skill and clinical psychologists the world over would suddenly become irrelevant, haha. It's more likely he saw something odd about you, and when she said that it "clicked" for him and made sense of what he thought.



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12 Feb 2011, 9:54 pm

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He might have noticed a lack of sincere emotion? Which isn't to say you weren't feeling it, I mean in the way that most of us have to learn to form expressions.

I have doubts that he really could tell - certainly if he could that would be a remarkable skill and clinical psychologists the world over would suddenly become irrelevant, haha. It's more likely he saw something odd about you, and when she said that it "clicked" for him and made sense of what he thought.

well he used to b a "psychic" so thts pretty sketchy XD


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12 Feb 2011, 10:03 pm

DiabloDave363 wrote:
vileseagulls wrote:
He might have noticed a lack of sincere emotion? Which isn't to say you weren't feeling it, I mean in the way that most of us have to learn to form expressions.

I have doubts that he really could tell - certainly if he could that would be a remarkable skill and clinical psychologists the world over would suddenly become irrelevant, haha. It's more likely he saw something odd about you, and when she said that it "clicked" for him and made sense of what he thought.

well he used to b a "psychic" so thts pretty sketchy XD


HAHA.

If he was a "psychic" then he's probably pretty good at reading people - they do it by making vague comments, seeing if you respond, and progressively getting more specific as your face indicates they're correct.



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13 Feb 2011, 12:28 am

Yeah, people who read others like fortune tellers and psychics can find us a bit challenging. Like our faces don't speak the same body language as theirs unless we've made a lot of effort to learn theirs. So they can see something off when comments that make others have some micro reaction aren't there in us. Usually they mistake it for extreme trauma since that's the closest to us most of them will see in an NT. It does mean you can get some really amusing 'readings' from them.



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13 Feb 2011, 12:55 am

You can tell by his eyes.

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I always though Craig 'looked' autistic. And he was diagnosed before I even knew what Asperger's was.


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13 Feb 2011, 1:13 am

Something I've been told is that even when I make eye contact with people, it is noticeable that I would rather look somewhere else. I don't know how people can tell. Perhaps my eyes are not communicating some kind of emotion that people expect them to be communicating.


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13 Feb 2011, 1:37 am

I am actually pretty good at "reading eyes" It is hard to explain but I can tell alot about a person by looking into their eyes and most of the time I am usually correct. Aspie eyes usually look like they are thinking and distant ...sometimes a permanant perplexed look, other times a flat expression. I have been told that my eyes are "deep" I guess that is because I am usually thinking too much.
The eyes are the mirror of one's mind. I dont know how I have so many aspie traits but managed to be able to read faces and eyes better than some nt's, but I never fit neatly in any category.

Anyway, I hope that helps


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13 Feb 2011, 3:39 am

He might mean that he can tell because you didn't make eye contact. Most NTs are completely comfortable looking someone in the eye, and they also instinctively know when to break it so they don't seem to be staring. My therapist said her first clue with me was that I never made eye contact; my eyes roamed around the room during our sessions. I think sometimes people who know about Autism/AS guess that we have it because of the way we avoid eye contact, or if we do make it, don't break it off at the right time and wind up staring!



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13 Feb 2011, 11:04 am

DiabloDave363 wrote:
But how can you tell if someone has a form of autism from looking at their eyes?


You can't, this is complete bunk. The eyes can give clues to a person's personality, emotions, thoughts, intentions, ailments, etc., but the eyes do not tell the complete story.



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13 Feb 2011, 3:28 pm

What I am surprised by much more is that he knew what AS is at all - here where I live, almost no one knows this.



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13 Feb 2011, 4:36 pm

Its called Aspie Eyes and I ran across a YouTube video about it one time (Google Aspie Eyes and you will find it somewhere). Aspie's may be able to compensate sometimes, but not all of the time and will often either avoid eye contact and/or will stare blankly out into space when deep into thought. I thought I did not avoid eye contact, but once I began thinking about it realized that I often did so and definitely do stare out into space at times. With my eye contact avoidance, what I most often do is to let my eyes dance around another person's eyes erratically without ever settling on a firm look at them.



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13 Feb 2011, 4:39 pm

Perhaps he knew from lack of eye contact?



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14 Feb 2011, 3:13 pm

pensieve wrote:
You can tell by his eyes.

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I always though Craig 'looked' autistic. And he was diagnosed before I even knew what Asperger's was.


Its that intense focused look in his eyes as he stares right through you. I know somebody who does this same thing when you try to speak to him and his eyes look like they are drilling holes right through you. The mind goes off on its own in that state of focused thought and the Aspie does not realize that he is staring at you.



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14 Feb 2011, 4:07 pm

TTRSage wrote:
Its called Aspie Eyes and I ran across a YouTube video about it one time (Google Aspie Eyes and you will find it somewhere). Aspie's may be able to compensate sometimes, but not all of the time and will often either avoid eye contact and/or will stare blankly out into space when deep into thought. I thought I did not avoid eye contact, but once I began thinking about it realized that I often did so and definitely do stare out into space at times. With my eye contact avoidance, what I most often do is to let my eyes dance around another person's eyes erratically without ever settling on a firm look at them.


I stare out into space when deep in thought, but doesn´t everybody do this? I think I don´t even know what´s "normal" anymore. Can you explain?


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14 Feb 2011, 8:40 pm

jojobean wrote:
I am actually pretty good at "reading eyes" It is hard to explain but I can tell alot about a person by looking into their eyes and most of the time I am usually correct. Aspie eyes usually look like they are thinking and distant ...sometimes a permanant perplexed look, other times a flat expression. I have been told that my eyes are "deep" I guess that is because I am usually thinking too much.
The eyes are the mirror of one's mind. I dont know how I have so many aspie traits but managed to be able to read faces and eyes better than some nt's, but I never fit neatly in any category.

Anyway, I hope that helps


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This is what I don't get - HOW can you tell about people from eyes alone? I can tell a lot about people by watching them, but when I look at eyes, I just see eyes.